[arin-ppml] Proposal to ban Leasing of IP Addresses in the ARIN region

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Wed Sep 22 12:12:45 EDT 2021

I believe maybe Michael didn't understand well the matter fully or got 
only part of it.
Probably what caused more confusion was how Owen put the part "No 
signatory to any ARIN RSA is permitted by policy to engage in a 
recurring charge for addresses or a differentiated service charge based 
on the number if addresses issued to a customer.". That could be dubious 
in the sense that a LIR could not charge administrative fees when they 
assign addresses to their connectivity customers.

A simple: "No signatory to any ARIN RSA is permitted by policy to engage 
issuing addresses to non-conectivity customers. Addresses must be 
provided strictly as part of a contract for connectivity services."

I think Owen tried to put in a way to strengthen his point of view the 
LIR lease addresses and by that text they would not permitted to do even 
for connectivity customers.Simplifying it would achieve the objective in 
the subject without necessarily change the usual way LIRs allocate 
addresses to their *connectivity customers*.


On 22/09/2021 13:00, Isaiah Olson wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> I appreciate you clarifying this issue. If this policy proposal is 
> considered out of scope, I would ask why Mike's policy proposal to 
> explicitly allow leasing is considered in-scope for this PDP? If it is 
> ARIN's position that it "does not impose any such restrictions on 
> trade or pricing" with regards to pricing structure, why does ARIN 
> differentiate justified need for transfers (trade) based on the 
> absence or presence of connectivity services?
> I am happy to dispatch with any discussions that are not relevant or 
> allowed, but I think that your post requires additional clarification 
> of what topics are not permissible since many of the issues you have 
> raised as out of scope are germane to other policies under discussion.
> Thanks,
> Isaiah
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