[arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Sep 21 01:12:10 EDT 2021

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 14:35 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On 19 Sep 2021, at 1:12 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 06:32 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:
>>> I actually haven’t said that – what I said is that your assertion that the costs are linear (i.e. per IP address represented) are not realistic, nor is the single fee per-registry-object-regardless-of-size approach realistic. 
>>> Our fee schedule scales in a geometric manner, so the smallest resource holders are paying only $250/year and the largest paying hundreds of thousands per year.   Does it reflect perfect cost allocation?  Almost certainly not, since it generallizations the entire ARIN customer base into a simple set of fee categories.  It may not be perfect but I believe it is as simple, fair and clear as is possible under the circumstances. 
>> You got two out of three. It’s as simple and clear as possible.
> Thanks – that’s good to hear. 
>> It clearly subsidizes LIRs on the backs of end users that are just ever so slightly larger than the very smallest.
> It is true that the 8022 end-user customers will be paying a larger portion of overall registry expenses (totaling approx. 1/3 of ARIN's total costs), but “subsidizes” is probably not a correct characterization – as they will be paying $860 per year on average as compared to the $2341 paid annually on average by the existing ISP customers. 

So your assertion is that LIRs only constitute 75% of ARIN’s expenses? Unless you can make that claim, it is, indeed, subsidy.

> Yes, this does mean an increase in annual fee for those end-users organizations who have more IPv4 number resources, but it also means a reduction for more than three thousand end-user organizations who have the typical single /24 IPv4 address block. 

That’s an extremely low cutoff for the end-user organizations worthy of consideration. A /22 can legitimately still be a very small end-user organization and this latest fee hike, especially in light of double billing for LRSA+RSA end-users in light of the previous restructuring efforts to screw these particular end users is quite painful.


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