[arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sun Sep 19 13:31:30 EDT 2021


Let me be clear…

I do not feel that the overall costs of operating ARIN at this time are unreasonable.

I do feel that the apportionment of fees in the new system is very unfair to certain registrants.

Owen


> On Sep 19, 2021, at 08:51 , Steve Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:
> 
> Your and my view of rich are obviously different but let's put that aside. 
> 
> But my point was very specific, if people are talking about ARIN running a deficit and having to raise rates, you should look at the costs of the organization. 
> 
> If you are complaining to John that the rate increases are not fair, again, look at the costs. If they are too high, then they can be lowered and the rates lowered along with them. 
> 
> If you think ARIN is doing everything correctly including compensation then I don't see the issue as it appears that John supports this billing model.
> 
> If you don't agree, than let's have a productive discussion. 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 6:33 AM Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:33 AM Steve Noble <snoble at sonn.com <mailto:snoble at sonn.com>> wrote:
> Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As of 2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing lists. 
> 
> https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956 <https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956>
> Key Employees and Officers	Compensation
> JOHN CURRAN (CEO AND PRESIDENT)	$546,029
> RICHARD JIMMERSON (COO)	$347,120
> JOHN SWEETING (SR. DIRECTOR, RSD)	$279,352
> MARK KOSTERS (CTO)	$276,796
> 
>  
> 
> I am tempted to throw gasoline on this fire. However, that isn't productive, nor is this, in light of a serious concern related to the fee structure. Is hare that concern as well.
> 
> If we want good people? We pay. For most of these positions and salaries pay is well below career positions that most of these folks could easily obtain in the industries we/ARIN serves. Nobody is getting rich working at ARIN. John Curran is the face of the organization and it's his job to answer these questions. It may not be his job to answer _every_ question, but speaking for myself: I have zero issue with his pay and duties. 
> 
> Fees are ultimately the board's responsibility: https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/ <https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
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