[arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sun Sep 19 09:56:55 EDT 2021


What does being non-profit have to do with not paying the executives that
run the day by day of the organization ?

Fernando

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021, 01:33 Steve Noble, <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:

> Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As of
> 2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing
> lists.
>
> https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956
> Key Employees and Officers Compensation
> JOHN CURRAN (CEO AND PRESIDENT) $546,029
> RICHARD JIMMERSON (COO) $347,120
> JOHN SWEETING (SR. DIRECTOR, RSD) $279,352
> MARK KOSTERS (CTO) $276,796
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 9:17 PM Mark McDonald <markm at siteserver.com> wrote:
>
>> Our rate hike alone covers the cost of responding to concerned
>> organizations questioning why such a massive rate hike is needed that
>> targets the smallest half of ARIN’s user base.  You realize the only reason
>> people are complaining (and you’re on these forums defending it) is because
>> such a few increase is almost unheard of, correct?  Of course the
>> mega-carriers aren’t on here complaining - they’re paying less than *1%* of
>> what /24 holders do.  Just wait until the actual bills go out.
>>
>> ARIN’s “a /8 ISP assignment costs just as much as a /24 end user”
>> reasoning is ridiculous.
>>
>> Not only is it untrue, it’s counterintuitive to reward organizations to
>> request and maintain large assignments of a finite resource when there is
>> absolutely zero incentive to return address space that isn’t needed.  It’s
>> “taxing” the small organizations to fund the larger ones.  If you took into
>> account that most large address space owners hold numerous blocks, their
>> per IPv4 resource cost only gets less and less.
>>
>> Again, I ask how ARIN feels it costs more than $1000 to respond to each
>> ticket.  Id absolutely love to see how ARIN is losing money on our account.
>>
>> I’m all for per / transaction fees - pay for what you use.  But what ARIN
>> has passed with zero outreach is counterproductive to everything ARIN is
>> supposed to represent - fairness and a steward of limited IPv4 resources.
>>
>> Seeing the CEO of ARIN on these forums advocating for the behemoths of
>> the internet at the cost of small organizations is disheartening.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 18, 2021, at 4:03 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 17 Sep 2021, at 11:40 PM, arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Why not let them choose? They don’t really get any benefit from being
>> an LIR member and since they aren’t running a local registry even though
>> they are an ISP, why force them into the LIR category?
>> >
>> > They don’t need to have a relationship with ARIN, but opt to do so in
>> order to have number resources in the registry system that are independent
>> of their service provider.  That means a contract with ARIN for services
>> and thus sharing in the cost recovery model.
>> >
>> > You can assert that ARIN's costs are predominantly the result of “LIRs”
>> but that doesn’t reflect reality – many of our services and functions are
>> equivalent for an entire address block and only a small set of them are
>> related to subdelegation functions.
>> >
>> > Furthermore, there are costs that ARIN incurs as a result of customers
>> that have no relation at all to the customers individual utilization of
>> services or their choice to subdelegate, but still must be recovered (e.g.
>> costs of responding to customers on mailing lists…)
>> >
>> > FYI,
>> > /John
>> >
>> > John Curran
>> > President and CEO
>> > American Registry for Internet Numbers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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