[arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

Paul E McNary pmcnary at cameron.net
Sat Sep 11 23:20:35 EDT 2021


I must somewhat agree. Our fiber provide to our ISP just recently rolled out ipv6 but not dual stack.
We have a great deal of problems routing to ipv6 hosts from our customers ipv6 ip addresses.
We have trouble with our Verizon phones on ipv6 getting to our routers.
People out in the country putting in video surveillance systems that the will only use a static ipv4 IP.
We are out of ipv4 IP's.
So at this point it costs us customers and increased service calls when ROKU says the ISP (Us) is at fault.
They expect us to cover the min. $100 service call fee on a $50 plan
Tell me how can that work.

I have been quiet on this list for 2 or 3 years. This entire message chain makes no good solution.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Maimon" <jmaimon at chl.com>
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>, "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us>
Cc: "arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 9:59:35 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:
>
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 19:29 , William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 5:42 PM Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
>>> May I ask if you're thinking changes with the understand that all of the addresses being considered are going to be purchased.
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I suppose my real worry is that the address sale market dries up
>> because it's more lucrative to lease them. With leasing agents running
>> around helping address holders monetize their IP addresses through
>> leasing in order to take a cut. That would be a travesty.
> Would it? The easiest way to eliminate leasing providers outright is to migrate to v6.
>
> The industry seems to prefer leasing providers over v6, so meh. Are all the market
> proponents going to claim the invisible hand is wrong now?
>
> Owen
>
>
The invisible hand has its middle finger extended, telling you and those 
like you what many have been saying for years unto deaf ears. IPv6 and 
its migration have been and continue to be an utter disaster, created 
purely out of ivory tower hubris that designed it to be an incompatible 
dual stack dual cost useless investment for most of the actual users of 
the network.

And it was easily predictable.

Joe
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