[arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Tue Sep 7 14:40:19 EDT 2021

On 7 Sep 2021, at 1:58 PM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com<mailto:SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>> wrote:

I would add, that to my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong), ARIN has never publicly shared the actual contractual agreement text that Microsoft signed.  At the time there were a lot of calls from folks in this forum to share it publicly.  There was also conjecture in this forum at that time, that Microsoft possibly signed an agreement that was different than the then current RSA/LSRA agreements that ARIN was requiring other organizations to sign to get resources. There was quite a lot of discussion on this whole subject at that time.

Steven -

It does appear that we’re repeating old ground - https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2020-October/068136.html

ARIN does have circumstances from time to time that involve courts and/or litigation, and when that occurs we attempt in good faith to work with the courts & parties involved for a productive outcome.

Sometimes this is not possible – e.g. due to an attempted transfer contrary to ARIN policies, or when the desired outcome would result in resources not under RSA or not subject to community policy.

I am happy to these are rare events, and once we intervene we’ve always been able to resolve them with the transfers being made in accordance with policy, under an RSA and subject to ARIN’s policy on going forward basis.

Such is the nature of being involved in a legal dispute – one cannot control all of the factors and that may mean adjusting language in order to settle a dispute and allow all parties to move forward.


John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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