[arin-ppml] AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System

Christian Orozco chresgoro at gmail.com
Sun Sep 5 05:46:27 EDT 2021

Hello John,

Thank you for your willingness to address questions that I might have.

I just want to mention that I am very much aware of the article. Thus, I
understand well the position of ARIN on this issue. There is no question on
ARIN's support for AFRINIC and I do appreciate the concept of mutual
support that the RIRs are upholding.  However, your statements on Mr Lu
could be easily misinterpreted by people who have not understood well how
CI is able to provide trusted service to millions of end-users. It seems
unnecessary to put him and his business in such a bad light, knowing that
you clearly mentioned as well that the community must not make
judgements/assumptions as we are waiting for the court's decision.


On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 7:29 PM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

> Good Morning Christian -
> If you have a particular question about ARIN’s position on the AFRINIC
> dispute (as delineated in the referenced article on ARIN’s web site
> entitled "AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry
> System”), then I’d be happy to clarify it in response to any particular
> question you might have.   I don’t see any questions in your assertions
> below, so there’s really nothing to respond to other than to acknowledge
> that you are welcome to share them here and note that I find your
> characterization fundamentally disconnected from the facts of the
> situation.
> Best wishes,
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
> On 2 Sep 2021, at 6:34 AM, Christian Orozco <chresgoro at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> I think Cloud Innovation has made it very clear that the question you and
> a few others have raised is *sub judice*. It looks like you are
> intervening in this lawsuit so you can give AfriNIC the technical advantage
> even if they are in the wrong.
> Mr. Lu Heng has also made it clear to you that he is protecting his users'
> data, to the point that he chose to give up 1 million space. Unfortunately,
> not only have you disrespected the protection of personal data, but you
> have also portraited his noble action as some sort of fraud.
> Moreover, in order to achieve all of this, you have extended the subject
> of an entire mailing list, which is solely dedicated to policy discussions,
> and which was previously restricted.
> And while you claim that you are trying to protect the global internet,
> you seem to be in total denial of the fact that Cloud Innovation also
> serves millions of users, and that AfriNIC has tried to stop the internet
> connectivity for those millions of users with complete disregard of the
> internet stability.
> In the same text, you have claimed that Cloud Innovation uses IP addresses
> outside of the ARIN region and have continued in the next paragraph that
> Cloud Innovation is using IP addresses in the US (i.e. ARIN region). John,
> I think you have failed your character assassination attempt in this case
> with your inconsistent statements and misleading words, and maybe you
> should recognize that and move on before you lose more credibility.
> Regards,
> Christian
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