[arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sat Sep 4 20:31:10 EDT 2021

Owen, you repeat this fixed idea over and over and over that LIR 'lease'
addresses exactlly the same way those who don't have any commitment to
building any internet but only speculate with IP addresses do, in a try to
justify and make it normal the last one.

It ia not too hard to see the enourmeous diferences between both.

So far you seem the only one I read repeating this exoctic idea.


On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 21:01 Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> > On Sep 2, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Michel Py via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Burns wrote :
> >> Let’s not kid ourselves, what happened in AFRINIC is a free-pool
> problem, not a leasing problem. The comparison
> >> of registration fees to leasing revenue in this thread is completely
> bogus, except for the free pool.
> >
> > The leasing thing makes it worse, though. Instead of having the
> recipient be accountable for the use of these addresses, it shifts that to
> who leases them. It's a smoke screen.
> How is this different from any other LIR? It’s a provider-assigned set of
> addresses, regardless of the financial and/or connectivity arrangement (or
> not) between the provider of the addresses and the customer using the
> addresses.
> Owen
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