[arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)
farmer at umn.edu
Wed Sep 1 15:47:00 EDT 2021
I changed the subject line, as this isn't directly related to the dispute
between AFRINIC and CI, but more some questions arising from it
specifically related to the ARIN registered resources.
So, do ARIN resource holders have a duty to report changes in their use of
resources? If they do, where does that duty come from in policy or contract
language? And, what are the relevant changes that need to be reported?
In my review of these questions;
In the RSA I see where holders are granted, "The right to use the Included
Number Resources within the ARIN database" (RSA section 2.b bullet 2).
However, I don't see any limitation to that use, such as "originally
justified" or any obligation to report a change in such use.
In policy, "An end-user is an organization receiving assignments of IP
addresses exclusively for use in its operational networks." (NRPM 2.6),
with an exception for incidental or transient use (last paragraph, section
Maybe to align end-user requirements with the new Registration Services
Agreement we should change that so end-users have to report any use, other
than incidental or transient use, outside their organization.
And ISP's have requirements to report the use by their customers that
exceed certain levels (NRPM sections 18.104.22.168 and 6.5.5).
So, other than the ISP reporting requirements, I don't see direct reporting
obligations for change in use. Further, I don't see any guidance to what
might be a material change in use that is in need of reporting, as I'm sure
we don't want ARIN Staff tied up with reports of all possible changes, most
of which are probably irrelevant.
Are there reporting requirements I'm missing? Maybe implied or indirect
Should something be added to ARIN's policies explicitly stating
requirements for reporting a change in the use of resources?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:27 AM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2021, at 10:59 PM, arin-ppml at arin.net wrote:
> If Cloud Innovation has indicated that they predominantly “lease” the IP
> address space to other parties, then why did AfriNic grant their request in
> the first place, if it violates their policy ?
> Michel -
> That presumes that Cloud Innovation actually requested the address space
> for that purpose, and hence why many are asking Cloud Innovation (and those
> associated with CI) the question "*Is Cloud Innovation’s use of the
> blocks in question within the remit and purpose for which they were
> originally justified?”*
> It is a simple yes/no question of fact, but one which has alluded any
> official answer to date. It’s been suggested that they’ve already said as
> much in previous emails, but a simple yes/no response doesn’t seem
> forthcoming – although it would certainly clarify quite a bit.
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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