[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

Mike Burns mike at iptrading.com
Thu Sep 23 21:03:18 EDT 2021


Wrong again Bill.

What can't you understand about purchasing addresses at fair market price?

How is that rent-controlled, please elaborate?

Actually the current policy is rent-control!


Are you not understanding that these are not free pool addresses?



Regards,

Mike








---- On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:38:51 -0400 William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote ----


Give it up Mike. You want to sublet a rent controlled apartment at 
market rate. That's not cool. 
 
-Bill 
 
 
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 4:40 PM Mike Burns <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> wrote: 
> 
> Hello list, 
> 
> It might help everybody to know that at current rates, it could take 100 months of lease revenue to purchase an address. 
> The risk is not exactly zero when buying to lease out. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Mike 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:27:53 -0400 Mike Burns <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> wrote ---- 
> 
> Hi Bill, 
> 
> Wrong. 
> Arin processes a purchase of address. 
> I turn around and lease them for a fraction of that amount. 
> I add accessiblity and affordability for the lessees, or there is no market. 
> 
> It's as simple as a bank financing a pickup truck. 
> Is the bank guilty of rent-seeking? 
> 
> Regards, 
> Mike 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:25:37 -0400 William Herrin <mailto:bill at herrin.us> wrote ---- 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 4:15 PM Mike Burns <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> wrote: 
> > I add value by transferring cash to somebody else in the hope I can lease the purchased IPv4 out for a profit before China and the DoD dump addresses on the market. 
> 
> Hi Mike, 
> 
> ARIN leases addresses to you. You turn around and lease them to 
> someone else at a higher price. You add nothing in the process, no 
> network services or anything like that. The lessee can't rent them 
> directly from ARIN, not because of cost or risk or whatever but ARIN 
> doesn't have any left to rent. It's about as straightforward an 
> example of rent seeking as you can get. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Bill Herrin 
> 
> 
> -- 
> William Herrin 
> mailto:bill at herrin.us 
> https://bill.herrin.us/ 
> 
> 
> 
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