[arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users

[Steve Noble]

Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As of
2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing
lists.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956
Key Employees and Officers Compensation
JOHN CURRAN (CEO AND PRESIDENT) $546,029
RICHARD JIMMERSON (COO) $347,120
JOHN SWEETING (SR. DIRECTOR, RSD) $279,352
MARK KOSTERS (CTO) $276,796

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 9:17 PM Mark McDonald <markm at siteserver.com> wrote:

> Our rate hike alone covers the cost of responding to concerned
> organizations questioning why such a massive rate hike is needed that
> targets the smallest half of ARIN’s user base.  You realize the only reason
> people are complaining (and you’re on these forums defending it) is because
> such a few increase is almost unheard of, correct?  Of course the
> mega-carriers aren’t on here complaining - they’re paying less than *1%* of
> what /24 holders do.  Just wait until the actual bills go out.
>
> ARIN’s “a /8 ISP assignment costs just as much as a /24 end user”
> reasoning is ridiculous.
>
> Not only is it untrue, it’s counterintuitive to reward organizations to
> request and maintain large assignments of a finite resource when there is
> absolutely zero incentive to return address space that isn’t needed.  It’s
> “taxing” the small organizations to fund the larger ones.  If you took into
> account that most large address space owners hold numerous blocks, their
> per IPv4 resource cost only gets less and less.
>
> Again, I ask how ARIN feels it costs more than $1000 to respond to each
> ticket.  Id absolutely love to see how ARIN is losing money on our account.
>
> I’m all for per / transaction fees - pay for what you use.  But what ARIN
> has passed with zero outreach is counterproductive to everything ARIN is
> supposed to represent - fairness and a steward of limited IPv4 resources.
>
> Seeing the CEO of ARIN on these forums advocating for the behemoths of the
> internet at the cost of small organizations is disheartening.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 18, 2021, at 4:03 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 17 Sep 2021, at 11:40 PM, arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not let them choose? They don’t really get any benefit from being
> an LIR member and since they aren’t running a local registry even though
> they are an ISP, why force them into the LIR category?
> >
> > They don’t need to have a relationship with ARIN, but opt to do so in
> order to have number resources in the registry system that are independent
> of their service provider.  That means a contract with ARIN for services
> and thus sharing in the cost recovery model.
> >
> > You can assert that ARIN's costs are predominantly the result of “LIRs”
> but that doesn’t reflect reality – many of our services and functions are
> equivalent for an entire address block and only a small set of them are
> related to subdelegation functions.
> >
> > Furthermore, there are costs that ARIN incurs as a result of customers
> that have no relation at all to the customers individual utilization of
> services or their choice to subdelegate, but still must be recovered (e.g.
> costs of responding to customers on mailing lists…)
> >
> > FYI,
> > /John
> >
> > John Curran
> > President and CEO
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers
> >
> >
> >
> >
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