[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Wed Oct 27 17:16:28 EDT 2021

Yes, I did, but *only* in order to make sure that the status of the abuse-c polices is known in the list for what is worth on this discussion, because I assume that not everyone follows/contributes to the policies in the 5 RIRs as it is my case (probably just a very few folks).


I think it is always useful for any policy/proposal discussion to understand the status in the other 5 RIRs and what has been good or bad.



El 27/10/21 23:07, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML" <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de arin-ppml at arin.net> escribió:


I will point out that Jordi started the references to other regions in his post.




On Oct 27, 2021, at 13:11 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:


Owen - 


Please keep your comments focused on the draft policy under consideration – as Jordi notes below, opining on events in the other regions isn’t particularly germane to this policy discussion. 





John Curran

President and CEO

American Registry for Internet Numbers



On 27 Oct 2021, at 3:47 PM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:


Of course, now that the board has chosen to ensure that the appeal committee can’t possibly be independent or fair and is just an extension of the board, I’m not sure what the point is, just let the board ratify or not as the appeal committee has been rejiggered to ensure that they will do whatever the board wants anyway. The level of corruption and disdain for the community and the multistakeholder process displayed by the current AFRINIC board is truly outrageous. Hopefully the next election will see a great deal of new blood seated.


[Jordi] While I don’t agree in many things with the board, and I expressed it publicly, regardless of what AC is there, the PDP has not been followed in order to make the appeal valid (and the time to re-appeal has passed). Anyway, this is a different discussion.


Following the PDP and/or the bylaws or CPM would be a novel approach for AFRINIC these days. As such, I have little hope in any form of predictable process, though I suspect the result is highly predictable, and in favor of a vocal minority segment of the community that seems to have taken effective control of the AFRINIC board and thus since the board appears to feel unconstrained by process, policy, or even the bylaws or the companies act, by extension, AFRINIC itself.



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