[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

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Wed Oct 27 12:07:46 EDT 2021

I Oppose this.

Already there are operators that have set up autoresponders to "demand" 
you report abuse by their web application and stating that they are 
choosing to ignore your email submission.  I think that is wrong, since 
email IS the current standard for reporting abuse.

While I can see benefit to a standard reporting means, even if it is 
simply use of something like the registration templates of the past, I do 
not think that that kind of standard development belongs at ARIN.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Andrew Dul wrote:

> On 10/27/2021 12:26 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:33 PM Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>> I'd might be ok with a URL, but not just "any URL" if the community is
>>> really interested in improving reporting, we likely need a structured
>>> data format and API so that input can be better used by those receiving
>>> the reports.
>> Hi Andrew,
>> I'd prefer not to see ARIN leading that effort but I'd point out that
>> this policy change creates a framework which could lead to such
>> standardization. If the URL is HTTP, automation could request the URL
>> with a particular user agent string which, if the server supports it,
>> would return machine-readable instructions for generating and
>> transmitting a report instead of the normal human-readable ones.
> While ARIN it probably not the best place to formalize this standard 
> 'structured data format' it certainly can be involved in creating and 
> advocating for its development and standardization. In the same way that RDAP 
> was developed by RIR staff and then standardized in the IETF.
> In this case, if we build it (a URL option)...they will come...in many many 
> different and likely incompatible ways which is worse that today's email 
> standard.
> I'm disinclined to support this draft to allow a URL as a reporting mechanism 
> in the absence of the structured data format.
> Thanks,
> Andrew
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