[arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Tue Oct 12 07:47:38 EDT 2021


Cast /all/ your  votes in favor of the petition for both candidates.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 01:42 Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML <
arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:

> Whatever it is I don’t want a repeat of this again so let me know what I
> am able to do to help!
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 16:39 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect they were given board guidance that lead to this unfortunate
>> and undesirable action.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 20:08 , Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The members of the NomCom aren't allowed to make public statements like
>> that about the private proceedings of the NomCom. Given the NomCom is made
>> up of individuals that many of us know personally and highly respect, I
>> think it is unlikely that they acted with any ill intent. And if some
>> members of the NomCom were attempting to disqualify individuals for
>> political reasons or anything like that, I suspect at least one member of
>> the NomCom would have resigned rather than go along with it. More likely,
>> they were following the process they were asked to perform to the best of
>> their ability, and that process resulted in qualified candidates being
>> disqualified on some technicality. The problem is that the process is
>> entirely black-box, with very little transparency. The best we can hope for
>> this time around is that the Board investigates what happens and makes some
>> form of statement after the petition process is complete as to what they
>> found.
>>
>> Looking forward, I believe that the process needs to be reformed to be
>> less completely opaque, and to provide mechanisms for the NomCom to provide
>> feedback, to the candidates, the board, and the public, as to their reasons
>> whenever they choose not to place nominated candidates on the ballot.
>> Several suggestions have already been made on how that could be done, and I
>> know others are considering other mechanisms. I look forward to seeing the
>> board candidates' (and existing board members') positions on how they
>> intend to balance transparency with the need for privacy in reviewing
>> candidates' backgrounds.
>>
>> In any event, those solutions must by necessity be applied to future
>> elections, not to the current situation. The recourse for the current
>> situation (for ARIN members) is simply to support the petitions and then
>> vote in the election.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 7:18 PM Michael B. Williams <
>> Michael.Williams at glexia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is NomCom able to explain how this happened? In my opinion, unless they
>>> cannot offer some credible explanation everyone on NomCom should be removed
>>> from any position of official power at ARIN. Embarrassing to say the least.
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>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 1:35 PM Jason Baugher <jasonbaugher at adamstel.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I signed the petitions to get these 2 candidates on the ballot, because
>>>> unless someone on the nom-com cares to give us a valid reason to reject
>>>> them, I feel they belong there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also answered the survey regarding the prioritization of question,
>>>> choosing those that address the nom-com and overall behavior and makeup of
>>>> the board to be the most important.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Up until a few years ago, I paid little attention to ARIN governance
>>>> and policy. What was in place didn’t affect me adversely, so I didn’t read
>>>> the new policy announcements, didn’t care who was running things, didn’t
>>>> even bother to vote quite honestly. It wasn’t until the somewhat recent
>>>> waiting list policy change fiasco that I started making a point of
>>>> following what is happening with ARIN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With that said, I consider myself somewhat of an outsider, so I may be
>>>> over-simplifying things. However, this is how I’m interpreting this
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> 1: The Board selects a nominating committee, which then has the
>>>> authority to accept or reject candidates from the ballot.
>>>>
>>>> 2: The nominating committee is insulated in as such that they don’t
>>>> have to provide their reasons for accepting or rejecting the candidate,
>>>> even to the candidate themselves.
>>>>
>>>> 3: The only recourse is for the person to file a petition to get 124
>>>> member orgs to sign to be forced onto the ballot, which is a hurdle that
>>>> those already accepted by the nominating committee do not have pass.
>>>>
>>>> 4: The end-result would appear to be a limited selection on the ballot
>>>> of people hand-picked by the existing Board, thereby ensuring the overall
>>>> direction of the Board stays the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone else already suggested a reform to the system above, where the
>>>> nom-com would have to provide their reasons for rejection, which I fully
>>>> support. I’d also suggest that if there is going to be a 2% petition
>>>> requirement to be on the ballot, it should be for all candidates, not just
>>>> for those who the nom-com rejects. Level the playing field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Scott
>>>> Leibrand
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 8:20 PM
>>>> *To:* arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway
>>>>
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>>>> In light of the public and private responses I’ve gotten to this
>>>> question, it seems that the obvious explanations are considered far more
>>>> credible than any innocent ones (of which none have been forthcoming this
>>>> far).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would encourage everyone to support these petitions, to solicit
>>>> candidates’ opinions on the matter of candidate selection, and then vote
>>>> for candidates willing to publicly advocate for candidate selection reform
>>>> at ARIN. Whether or not the process is currently undergoing capture, it
>>>> certainly appears to lack the transparency needed to avoid it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There were apparently at least 5 candidates. There are 2 open board
>>>> seats.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The nom-com approved only 3 candidates, hence my complaint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are 7 open advisory council seats. I did not count the nomination
>>>> list size, but I assure you it was well short of 14.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 17:30 , Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If there are enough candidates there ought to be at least 2 for each
>>>> seat and more than 2 is also good too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Mike
>>>> Burns
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 4:45 PM
>>>> *To:* Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was rejected for an Advisory Council candidacy even though I was a
>>>> candidate in the past and am a policy author in multiple registries.
>>>>
>>>> Another broker was likewise rejected.
>>>>
>>>> There are 7 AC openings, only 10 candidates, but I was rejected.
>>>>
>>>> I know another broker who was, like me, solicited to run but then
>>>> denied a candidacy.
>>>>
>>>> The NomCom is comprised of four insiders, two volunteers, and operates
>>>> in the dark.
>>>>
>>>> Not saying this is the case, but very few likeminded individuals on the
>>>> AC/Board can effectively capture these via NomCom filtering.
>>>>
>>>> A dangerous thing for Internet governance in the context of Afrinic. I
>>>> don't want the governments of the world taking over from the amateurs.
>>>>
>>>> But if we continue to act amateurish...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- On Sat, 09 Oct 2021 11:58:00 -0400 *Scott Leibrand
>>>> <scottleibrand at gmail.com <scottleibrand at gmail.com>>* wrote ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has ARIN disclosed anything about why the NomCom chose to exclude two
>>>> obviously-qualified candidates from the ballot when they didn’t yet have 2
>>>> candidates per open seat, and the 3 candidates they did include are all
>>>> less well-known to the community than both the ones they excluded?
>>>>
>>>> I can hypothesize some possible reasons, but none of them would reflect
>>>> well on the NomCom, so I am reluctant to do so without learning their
>>>> stated reason(s).
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> > On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Oct 9, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> There's a petition for two people to be added to the Trustee ballot
>>>> after being rejected by the nom com.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes! Go vote on the petitions, so you’ll have more than three choices
>>>> to fill the two open board seats, when the election comes. Give yourself
>>>> more options.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Bill
>>>> >
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