[arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

Mon Oct 11 23:11:41 EDT 2021

Thank you, Scott. Well said. Transparency is needed and I will support any
policy to make that happen.

Michael

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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:08 PM Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The members of the NomCom aren't allowed to make public statements like
> that about the private proceedings of the NomCom. Given the NomCom is made
> up of individuals that many of us know personally and highly respect, I
> think it is unlikely that they acted with any ill intent. And if some
> members of the NomCom were attempting to disqualify individuals for
> political reasons or anything like that, I suspect at least one member of
> the NomCom would have resigned rather than go along with it. More likely,
> they were following the process they were asked to perform to the best of
> their ability, and that process resulted in qualified candidates being
> disqualified on some technicality. The problem is that the process is
> entirely black-box, with very little transparency. The best we can hope for
> this time around is that the Board investigates what happens and makes some
> form of statement after the petition process is complete as to what they
> found.
>
> Looking forward, I believe that the process needs to be reformed to be
> less completely opaque, and to provide mechanisms for the NomCom to provide
> feedback, to the candidates, the board, and the public, as to their reasons
> whenever they choose not to place nominated candidates on the ballot.
> Several suggestions have already been made on how that could be done, and I
> know others are considering other mechanisms. I look forward to seeing the
> board candidates' (and existing board members') positions on how they
> intend to balance transparency with the need for privacy in reviewing
> candidates' backgrounds.
>
> In any event, those solutions must by necessity be applied to future
> elections, not to the current situation. The recourse for the current
> situation (for ARIN members) is simply to support the petitions and then
> vote in the election.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 7:18 PM Michael B. Williams <
> Michael.Williams at glexia.com> wrote:
>
>> Is NomCom able to explain how this happened? In my opinion, unless they
>> cannot offer some credible explanation everyone on NomCom should be removed
>> from any position of official power at ARIN. Embarrassing to say the least.
>>
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>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 1:35 PM Jason Baugher <jasonbaugher at adamstel.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> I signed the petitions to get these 2 candidates on the ballot, because
>>> unless someone on the nom-com cares to give us a valid reason to reject
>>> them, I feel they belong there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also answered the survey regarding the prioritization of question,
>>> choosing those that address the nom-com and overall behavior and makeup of
>>> the board to be the most important.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Up until a few years ago, I paid little attention to ARIN governance and
>>> policy. What was in place didn’t affect me adversely, so I didn’t read the
>>> new policy announcements, didn’t care who was running things, didn’t even
>>> bother to vote quite honestly. It wasn’t until the somewhat recent waiting
>>> list policy change fiasco that I started making a point of following what
>>> is happening with ARIN.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With that said, I consider myself somewhat of an outsider, so I may be
>>> over-simplifying things. However, this is how I’m interpreting this
>>> process.
>>>
>>> 1: The Board selects a nominating committee, which then has the
>>> authority to accept or reject candidates from the ballot.
>>>
>>> 2: The nominating committee is insulated in as such that they don’t have
>>> to provide their reasons for accepting or rejecting the candidate, even to
>>> the candidate themselves.
>>>
>>> 3: The only recourse is for the person to file a petition to get 124
>>> member orgs to sign to be forced onto the ballot, which is a hurdle that
>>> those already accepted by the nominating committee do not have pass.
>>>
>>> 4: The end-result would appear to be a limited selection on the ballot
>>> of people hand-picked by the existing Board, thereby ensuring the overall
>>> direction of the Board stays the same.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Someone else already suggested a reform to the system above, where the
>>> nom-com would have to provide their reasons for rejection, which I fully
>>> support. I’d also suggest that if there is going to be a 2% petition
>>> requirement to be on the ballot, it should be for all candidates, not just
>>> for those who the nom-com rejects. Level the playing field.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Scott
>>> Leibrand
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 8:20 PM
>>> *To:* arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway
>>>
>>>
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>>> In light of the public and private responses I’ve gotten to this
>>> question, it seems that the obvious explanations are considered far more
>>> credible than any innocent ones (of which none have been forthcoming this
>>> far).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would encourage everyone to support these petitions, to solicit
>>> candidates’ opinions on the matter of candidate selection, and then vote
>>> for candidates willing to publicly advocate for candidate selection reform
>>> at ARIN. Whether or not the process is currently undergoing capture, it
>>> certainly appears to lack the transparency needed to avoid it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There were apparently at least 5 candidates. There are 2 open board
>>> seats.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The nom-com approved only 3 candidates, hence my complaint.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are 7 open advisory council seats. I did not count the nomination
>>> list size, but I assure you it was well short of 14.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 17:30 , Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there are enough candidates there ought to be at least 2 for each
>>> seat and more than 2 is also good too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Ryerse*
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>>> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Mike Burns
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 4:45 PM
>>> *To:* Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was rejected for an Advisory Council candidacy even though I was a
>>> candidate in the past and am a policy author in multiple registries.
>>>
>>> Another broker was likewise rejected.
>>>
>>> There are 7 AC openings, only 10 candidates, but I was rejected.
>>>
>>> I know another broker who was, like me, solicited to run but then denied
>>> a candidacy.
>>>
>>> The NomCom is comprised of four insiders, two volunteers, and operates
>>> in the dark.
>>>
>>> Not saying this is the case, but very few likeminded individuals on the
>>> AC/Board can effectively capture these via NomCom filtering.
>>>
>>> A dangerous thing for Internet governance in the context of Afrinic. I
>>> don't want the governments of the world taking over from the amateurs.
>>>
>>> But if we continue to act amateurish...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Sat, 09 Oct 2021 11:58:00 -0400 *Scott Leibrand
>>> <scottleibrand at gmail.com <scottleibrand at gmail.com>>* wrote ----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has ARIN disclosed anything about why the NomCom chose to exclude two
>>> obviously-qualified candidates from the ballot when they didn’t yet have 2
>>> candidates per open seat, and the 3 candidates they did include are all
>>> less well-known to the community than both the ones they excluded?
>>>
>>> I can hypothesize some possible reasons, but none of them would reflect
>>> well on the NomCom, so I am reluctant to do so without learning their
>>> stated reason(s).
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> > On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> >> On Oct 9, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> There's a petition for two people to be added to the Trustee ballot
>>> after being rejected by the nom com.
>>> >
>>> > Yes! Go vote on the petitions, so you’ll have more than three choices
>>> to fill the two open board seats, when the election comes. Give yourself
>>> more options.
>>> >
>>> > -Bill
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