[arin-ppml] Nomcom rejection explanatory letter

[Owen DeLong]

Mike,

I will disagree. The proposal is to require an explanation. The letter you got was not an explanation, it was a clear exercise of the nominating committees option not to explain themselves if they choose not to.

If they were required to provide an explanation to candidates, I do not believe this letter would meet that requirement. If you have any ideas on wording to create a more effective
requirement that clarifies that fact, I would love to know what you might propose.

Owen


> On Nov 4, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin, 
> 
> Oh I didn't expect much, that's why I didn't ask for this letter in the beginning. When it arrived it just confirmed my suspicions and I posted it to allow others to understand that merely requiring this letter will do nothing to fix the situation.
> 
> It's only because I want Arin to continue doing a good job that I am pressing this issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 13:36:06 -0400 hannigan at gmail.com wrote ----
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I’m not sure I would’ve expected anything  different. 
> 
> BTW: Lets not forget that ARIN does a good job overall. BoT. AC. NRO NC. And the staff. Its a team effort. And we are part of the team. Vote!
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:53 Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick at ianai.net <mailto:patrick at ianai.net>> wrote:
> Sounds to me like a lawyer wrote it, not a member of the NomCom.
> 
> Which implies the NomCom was not allowed to answer.
> 
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
> 
> On Nov 4, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com <mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> This is very disappointing. Under the process to date, it was the NomCom's prerogative not to provide an explanation. But this non-explanation makes a mockery of the entire concept of an explanation. It literally says nothing about why the candidate was not selected. It simply restates the NomCom's charter and their decision.
> 
> If this is the kind of obfuscatory behavior we're going to get out of requiring explanations under the current process, then that process needs to be changed more radically than I thought.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:37 AM Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> 
> I received the explanation for my exclusion from this year's AC slate. 
> 
> 
> For those who believe this explanation provides any transparency, I post it in its totality below to disabuse them of that notion.
> 
> 
> Required explanations don't move the needle at all in attempting to improve the nominations process. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps all it would take would be a simple change to the charging language to instruct the nomcom not to exclude candidates who are qualified and include those minimum qualifications?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Mr. Burns,
> 
> The ARIN Nomination Committee (NomCom) is in receipt of your request for an explanatory statement on the reasons why you were not included on the Advisory Council candidate slate for the 2021 ARIN Elections. The ARIN NomCom reviewed all duly submitted and timely nominations and the materials provided by the nominees. The NomCom’s robust deliberation process was informed by the diversity of perspectives and experience among NomCom Members and strong adherence to the mandate and terms of reference. 
> 
> Various factors were considered including, but not limited to, experience, involvement in the ARIN community, and responses to the nominee questionnaires.  After careful and thoughtful review of each nominee, it was decided to not put your Advisory Council nomination forward onto the initial slate of candidates this year.  
> 
> Catherine Middleton
> Chair, ARIN Nomination Committee 2021
> 
> 
> 
> 
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