[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Tue Jan 19 18:32:03 EST 2021


> On 16 Jan 2021, at 03:41, Jay Wendelin <jmw at poweredbystl.com> wrote:
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> You would have to ask the ISP’s themselves.  My Schools will not want to be involved at all nor will we want to implement new and expensive technologies for ip6.

Why do you think that it would be expensive?  Also what makes you think IPv6 is new?  All the children in your schools are younger than IPv6.  If IPv6 could legally drink in every state in the US if it was a person.  I’ve been using IPv6 at home for 18 years now.  I’ve been working on IPv6 equipment for over 2 decades now.  IPv6 isn’t “new”.

Much of your equipment already supports IPv6 and has done for well over a decade now. I would bet that all of the computers (desktop and laptop) already support IPv6.  All your tablet computers will.  All your smart phones do.  What may not is “smart” TVs and “smart” whiteboards.  Unfortunately they don’t come from forward thinking manufactures.  Your router may or may not support it.  It really depends on its age and if it cost more than USD50.

It doesn’t cost your ISP anymore to deliver IPv6 along side IPv4.  ISPs get IPv6 addresses for next to nothing.  A /48 is about a cent a year with a /32 allocation USD1000 (support ~65000 customers) and only gets cheap on a per customer basis with larger allocations.  This is much cheaper than IPv4 is on a per customer basis.  RIRs also only charge the maximum of the IPv4, IPv6 allocation costs so for most ISPs they can get IPv6 addresses to $0.

https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/

Mark

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> Jay Wendelin
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> From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 10:36 AM
> To: Jay Wendelin <jmw at poweredbystl.com>
> Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
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> Didn't these ISPs in 2021 not invest IPv6 deployment and good CGNAT techniques and they rely only on keep getting more addresses from ARIN ?
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> Fernando
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> On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, 13:29 Jay Wendelin, <jmw at poweredbystl.com> wrote:
> I support this petition, I have many Public School Clients that rely on their ISP’s to manage and offer IP address. 
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> Jay Wendelin
> CIO
> STL/BTS
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> Jay Wendelin
> Chief Information Officer
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> jmw at poweredbystl.com
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