[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee

Michael Sinatra michael+ppml at burnttofu.net
Sun Jan 17 03:37:28 EST 2021


Thanks for the clarification, David.  I support the proposal as written.

michael

PS. My employer is covered under (L)RSA, so my question was "asking for 
a friend." :-)

On 1/15/21 5:11 PM, David Farmer wrote:
> In fact it does account for legacy resources, note such legacy resource 
> were allocated or assigned by predecessors of ARIN and therefore not “by 
> ARIN under these policies”. Furthermore, Registration Services Agreement 
> and RSA are both use in several places in the NRPM, therefore having a 
> clear definition seems like a good idea.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 18:55 Michael Sinatra 
> <michael+ppml at burnttofu.net <mailto:michael%2Bppml at burnttofu.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Question: Does this change affect in any way the services provided by
>     ARIN to legacy holders who are not under (L)RSA?  The new wording
>     proposed for section 2 doesn't seem to account for that category.  My
>     thought is to simply delete 4.2.1.2 and be done with it.  Does the NRPM
>     need to include a definition of the RSA?
> 
>     thanks,
>     michael
> 
> 
>     On 1/15/21 12:55 PM, ARIN wrote:
>      > The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > * ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Revised text is below and can be found at:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>
>      > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>      > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of
>     this Draft
>      > Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
>      > stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
>      > principles are:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>      >
>      > * Technically Sound
>      >
>      > * Supported by the Community
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > The PDP can be found at:
>      >
>      > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
>      > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>      >
>      > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
>      > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>     <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Sean Hopkins
>      >
>      > Policy Analyst
>      >
>      > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual
>     Renewal Fee
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Problem Statement:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > The January 2020 Policy Experience Report highlighted that the
>     existing
>      > language in Section 4.2.1.2 "Annual Renewal" references fees.
>     Fees are
>      > not considered a member qualification criteria. Since fees aren't
>      > referenced elsewhere in community policy, the wording was reviewed by
>      > the PEG.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Policy statement:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Given that the Registration Services Agreement (RSA) already contains
>      > language regarding fees, the AC Shepherds recommend to eliminate
>      > 4.2.1.2. entirely and add:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > 2.X Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Number resources allocated or assigned by ARIN under these
>     policies are
>      > subject to a contractural agreement between ARIN and the resource
>      > holder. Throughout this document, any and all forms of this
>     agreement,
>      > past or future, are simply referred to as the Registration Services
>      > Agreement (RSA).
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Comments:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > The AC’s understanding is that community policy should not include
>      > language referring to fees, as such language is already present
>     in the
>      > Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Registration Services has informed us that "Section 4.2.1.2. contains
>      > language detailing fee due dates, encouraging on-time payments, and
>      > mentions potential revocations. It also contains a reference to web
>      > documentation that has evolved significantly since this policy was
>      > implemented, and may continue to do so. Essentially the entire
>     section
>      > is made of language that is already in the Registration Services
>      > Agreement, and is generally fee-focused, making it outside normal
>     scope
>      > for Internet number resource policy."
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Anything else:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Community input since adopting draft has informed this direction. The
>      > 2.X placeholder is used as this seems like it might be foundational
>      > enough to not be 2.17 but the Shepherds would rather not upset
>     current
>      > indexing arbitrarily.
>      >
>      >
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