[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update Annual Renewal Fee

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Fri Jan 15 18:09:20 EST 2021

Yes fees are most a RSA thing, but I see no harm to keep the actual 
wording as it is and make it loud and clear that organizations that 
don't pay the fees are subjected to resources revocation - which is up 
to this forum to define - so no one may plead ignorance about it.
What is the problem to keep it as it is ? If the newly proposed text 
mentions that ISPs should take care to ensure that their annual renewal 
payment is made by their anniversary due date, what's wrong to also 
remind them that if that is not fulfilled the resources may be revoked ?
This makes part of the Fair and Impartial Number Resources 
Administration principle.

I see no propose in this proposal therefore I do not support it.


On 15/01/2021 17:55, ARIN wrote:
> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
> * ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update Annual Renewal Fee
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this 
> Draft Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy 
> as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
> principles are:
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
> Regards,
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update Annual Renewal Fee
> Problem Statement:
> The January 2020 Policy Experience Report highlighted that the 
> existing language in Section "Annual Renewal" references fees. 
> Fees are not considered a member qualification criteria. Since fees 
> aren't referenced elsewhere in community policy, the wording was 
> reviewed by the PEG.
> Policy statement:
> Given that the Registration Services Agreement (RSA) already contains 
> language regarding fees, the AC Shepherds recommend to eliminate 
> entirely and add:
> 2.X Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
> Number resources allocated or assigned by ARIN under these policies 
> are subject to a contractural agreement between ARIN and the resource 
> holder. Throughout this document, any and all forms of this agreement, 
> past or future, are simply referred to as the Registration Services 
> Agreement (RSA).
> Comments:
> The AC’s understanding is that community policy should not include 
> language referring to fees, as such language is already present in the 
> Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
> Registration Services has informed us that "Section contains 
> language detailing fee due dates, encouraging on-time payments, and 
> mentions potential revocations. It also contains a reference to web 
> documentation that has evolved significantly since this policy was 
> implemented, and may continue to do so. Essentially the entire section 
> is made of language that is already in the Registration Services 
> Agreement, and is generally fee-focused, making it outside normal 
> scope for Internet number resource policy."
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
> Anything else:
> Community input since adopting draft has informed this direction. The 
> 2.X placeholder is used as this seems like it might be foundational 
> enough to not be 2.17 but the Shepherds would rather not upset current 
> indexing arbitrarily.
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