[arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-2020-2

Paul Andersen - ARIN paul at arin.net
Thu Jan 14 13:37:20 EST 2021


Chris,

I’d be remiss if I didn’t say this was a rare process to be used (staff can comment but if there have been others they are extremely rare). So there is some items that will need to be fleshed out. 

Having said that the Board is aware this petition process exists (and all members of the Board including Chair and CEO are on this list). As to how that would factor into the deliberations - we would be guided as I said below by the Principles of Internet Number Resource Policy and would factor in any data that helps inform a decision based on that. 

If community members have views on your question as to what impact, if any, it would have - I think they should feel free to discuss it. As I said -  Our decision process is always enhanced by plentiful community input.

-p



> On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the explanation. One follow-up question I’d ask about this process - if the petition succeeds and the proposal is put before the Board for consideration, is it expected that the Board will consider the policy with, or explicitly without, taking into account the route it took to come before the board? While it’s clear that all Board members would be aware of this, would they be encouraged to keep it in mind, or to explicitly put it aside, as part of each member’s individual decision-making criteria? (and if not, should they be?)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -C
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Paul Andersen - ARIN <paul at arin.net <mailto:paul at arin.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> It may be useful to delineate the two elements of the process in the PDP and how they will be conducted.
>> 
>> The current stage is that staff are counting the number of individuals that voice support for the policy in question to be moved to the Board of Trustees for consideration. The PDP has always kept low thresholds for petition processes as a petition doesn’t automatically adopt a policy but simply advances it further in the process.  At this point, staff are only evaluating the criteria that there be 25 individuals in the time period indicated and that those individuals not be from the same organization to determine if the petition is successful.
>> 
>> If the threshold is met the policy will be put before the Board of Trustees for consideration. The Board does not “count” the votes when weighing community support or the policy. The Board instead will need to weigh quite a bit of data against the Principles of Internet Number Resource Policy stated in the PDP and this includes community support. The Board will ultimately come to its own view as to whether the policy change meets the criteria, as a successful petition simply brings it before them for consideration.
>> 
>> The Board (and staff) are observing this process and comments on the list will be considered. The community (including the AC) should feel free to, and are fact highly encouraged to, engage in meaningful discussion of the merits of the policy. If members of the community have questions for other community members they are free to ask those. The only reminder is any such discussion MUST follow the ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy.
>> 
>> The Board appreciates all those who engage in this process and strongly encourages everyone in the community to engage here. Our decision process is always enhanced by plentiful community input.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>>> Paul Andersen, P. Eng
>> Chair, ARIN Board of Trustees
>> paul at arin.net <mailto:paul at arin.net>
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 11:00 AM, Michael B. Williams <Michael.Williams at glexia.com <mailto:Michael.Williams at glexia.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Question for ARIN Employees/ others on PPLM -
>>> 
>>> How does ARIN analyze the response from this? Is there weight given only to ARIN member organizations or any organization? If anyone is given consideration, what is to stop people from lobbying individuals and other organizations to send an email to support their agenda? For example, I could very easily find 500 people to respond to this email saying they do not support the policy. If I were a malicious actor trying to influence policy discussion and were to offer some sort of incentive for those to reply I could easily have thousands of organizations supporting this policy one way or another. 
>>> 
>>> My feelings would be the majority of the weight should be given to ARIN member organizations voices as part of the tallying process. If that is the case, perhaps we should ask those organizations to include their ARIN org id?
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:17 AM ARIN <info at arin.net <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>>> A petition has been initiated for the following:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ARIN-2020-2 reverted to Draft Policy on 6 January following a Last Call period. Per ARIN's Policy Development Process (PDP), all Recommended Draft Policies not sent to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption consideration within 60 days of Last Call completion will revert to Draft Policy status.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Anyone may take part in this petition. Per ARIN's PDP, a petition for Board of Trustees adoption consideration will require support from 25 individuals from 25 distinct organizations to be considered successful.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> To support this petition for Board of Trustees adoption consideration of ARIN-2020-2, simply send a response to the Public Policy Mailing list indicating your support and including your full name and organization.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This petition window will remain open for five days, closing 16 January.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If successful by the end of the five-day period, the petition details and results will be forwarded to the Board of Trustees for adoption consideration at their next meeting.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> For more information on the PDP, visit: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> 
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> 
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>> 
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