[arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-2020-2

scott at solarnetone.org scott at solarnetone.org
Thu Jan 14 12:21:42 EST 2021

Hi John,

In these deliberations, I think it would be useful to know how many actual 
ARIN Member Organizations would be effected.  I am not talking about 
downstream customers, affiliates, or the like, but only resource holders 
on the actual waitlist.  Does John Sweeting have any metrics as to this? 
Further, if all effected organizations were to receive the allocations 
they are seeking, what percentage of the available address inventory would 
be immediately exhausted?


On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, John Curran wrote:

> On 14 Jan 2021, at 11:00 AM, Michael B. Williams
> <Michael.Williams at glexia.com> wrote:
>       How does ARIN analyze the response from this? Is there weight
>       given only to ARIN member organizations or any organization? If
>       anyone is given consideration, what is to stop people from
>       lobbying individuals and other organizations to send an email to
>       support their agenda? For example, I could very easily find 500
>       people to respond to this email saying they do not support the
>       policy. If I were a malicious actor trying to influence policy
>       discussion and were to offer some sort of incentive for those to
>       reply I could easily have thousands of organizations supporting
>       this policy one way or another. 
> My feelings would be the majority of the weight should be given to
> ARIN member organizations voices as part of the tallying process. If
> that is the case, perhaps we should ask those organizations to include
> their ARIN org id?
> Michael - 
> The ARIN Policy Development Process specifies the petition appeal process,
> and the sole criteria for a successful petition is expressions of support
> from at least 25 different people from 25 different organizations.  
> Note that a successful petition simply means that the policy – without any
> recommendation of adoption from the ARIN Advisory Council – will be sent to
> the ARIN Board of Trustees for their consideration of possible adoption.
>  Also note that for the purpose of determining petition success, ARIN staff
> will only be counting those messages which clearly indicate support for the
> petition and include both the submitters name and their organization. 
> The ARIN Board is on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List, and will see any
> discussion of substantial merits or concerns with the policy.  Each trustee
> is free to weight such input as they see fit, but at this point it is not a
> numerical question – as we are not seeking a poll of support or opposition
> to the policy – but rather simply whether at least 25 organizations feel
> (despite the ARIN AC’s decision not to recommend) that policy warrants
> consideration by the ARIN Board of Trustees.  
> Thanks,
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers

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