[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
Michael Sinatra
michael+ppml at burnttofu.net
Sun Jan 17 03:37:28 EST 2021
Thanks for the clarification, David. I support the proposal as written.
michael
PS. My employer is covered under (L)RSA, so my question was "asking for
a friend." :-)
On 1/15/21 5:11 PM, David Farmer wrote:
> In fact it does account for legacy resources, note such legacy resource
> were allocated or assigned by predecessors of ARIN and therefore not “by
> ARIN under these policies”. Furthermore, Registration Services Agreement
> and RSA are both use in several places in the NRPM, therefore having a
> clear definition seems like a good idea.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 18:55 Michael Sinatra
> <michael+ppml at burnttofu.net <mailto:michael%2Bppml at burnttofu.net>> wrote:
>
> Question: Does this change affect in any way the services provided by
> ARIN to legacy holders who are not under (L)RSA? The new wording
> proposed for section 2 doesn't seem to account for that category. My
> thought is to simply delete 4.2.1.2 and be done with it. Does the NRPM
> need to include a definition of the RSA?
>
> thanks,
> michael
>
>
> On 1/15/21 12:55 PM, ARIN wrote:
> > The following Draft Policy has been revised:
> >
> >
> >
> > * ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
> >
> >
> >
> > Revised text is below and can be found at:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>
> > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>>
> >
> >
> >
> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of
> this Draft
> > Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
> > stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
> > principles are:
> >
> >
> >
> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> >
> > * Technically Sound
> >
> > * Supported by the Community
> >
> >
> >
> > The PDP can be found at:
> >
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
> > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>>
> >
> >
> >
> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> >
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
> > <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>>
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> >
> > Policy Analyst
> >
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual
> Renewal Fee
> >
> >
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> >
> >
> > The January 2020 Policy Experience Report highlighted that the
> existing
> > language in Section 4.2.1.2 "Annual Renewal" references fees.
> Fees are
> > not considered a member qualification criteria. Since fees aren't
> > referenced elsewhere in community policy, the wording was reviewed by
> > the PEG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Policy statement:
> >
> >
> >
> > Given that the Registration Services Agreement (RSA) already contains
> > language regarding fees, the AC Shepherds recommend to eliminate
> > 4.2.1.2. entirely and add:
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.X Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
> >
> >
> >
> > Number resources allocated or assigned by ARIN under these
> policies are
> > subject to a contractural agreement between ARIN and the resource
> > holder. Throughout this document, any and all forms of this
> agreement,
> > past or future, are simply referred to as the Registration Services
> > Agreement (RSA).
> >
> >
> >
> > Comments:
> >
> >
> >
> > The AC’s understanding is that community policy should not include
> > language referring to fees, as such language is already present
> in the
> > Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
> >
> >
> >
> > Registration Services has informed us that "Section 4.2.1.2. contains
> > language detailing fee due dates, encouraging on-time payments, and
> > mentions potential revocations. It also contains a reference to web
> > documentation that has evolved significantly since this policy was
> > implemented, and may continue to do so. Essentially the entire
> section
> > is made of language that is already in the Registration Services
> > Agreement, and is generally fee-focused, making it outside normal
> scope
> > for Internet number resource policy."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anything else:
> >
> >
> >
> > Community input since adopting draft has informed this direction. The
> > 2.X placeholder is used as this seems like it might be foundational
> > enough to not be 2.17 but the Shepherds would rather not upset
> current
> > indexing arbitrarily.
> >
> >
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