[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee

[John Curran]

On 16 Jan 2021, at 10:35 AM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com<mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Owen

*Any* revocation must always be governed by this forum which is the only body who has power to define allocation policies and therefore revocation. RIRs don't have power for that, except on exceptional situations (section 10.1) which have to be confirmed by this forum.
The RIR, based on RSA may stop providing services to organizations that are not up to their payments, but a policy that states loud and clear that organizations that fail to pay their fees are also subject to revocation, reason why I see no harm to leave the text as it is.

Yes, the Board is free to modify the RSA at will, but they need to make it coherent to the whatever the policies say, where it applies of course (ex: Policy say that undue payments leads to resources revocation. RSA may outline the details how the services will stop being provided until the resources are revoked in line with this forum has the sole prerogative to define.)

Just as a comparison and knowing that each RIR PDP may have its differences, the essence of ICP-2 is the same, the LACNIC policy manual clearly states in section 7 that lack payment (among other reasons) is a reason for revocation. Beyond that which is specifically stated in the manual it also says that "violations on contractual obligations with LACNIC" may be a reason for revocation. In resume, that is defined by the Policy Forum for the RIR to execute.

Fernando -

Your assertion is incorrect with respect to ARIN, in that the text in the RSA is controlling in this regard (as Owen noted earlier.)

Each RIR has to conform with its own agreements and applicable law, and such may have operational impacts on the management of number resources in the region absent any corresoonding policy.

As RIRs are member-based organizations,  members in the region elect a governing board that hold overall responsibility for the business of the RIR.   This is no different in ARIN region – the membership of ARIN elects a Board which has authority for the organization and this includes establising more operational matters such as budget, services, fees, and agreements.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


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