[arin-ppml] AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sun Aug 29 18:34:26 EDT 2021

I believe this type of topic which John shared to this list is indeed 
relevant to it.
I don't think all messages sent here should be only about proposals, but 
also to subjects directly related Policy Development Process and RIR IP 

Most of people who actively participate on this type of email list 
should be able to receive this type of information covered by the shared 
statement in order to stay abreast of it and form their opinions about 
it when related matters are discussed about any current or future 
proposals. Anything that happens on other RIRs or PDP Forums is also 
relevant for people to get to know.

It seems the discussion became about having or not a ARIN Discuss list 
rather than what matters most which is the topic that was shared and the 
problems AfriNic and consequently the rest of Internet community is facing.
In some AfriNic discussions seems to happen often that when certain 
topic is mentioned that doesn't please some people there are tentatives 
to divert to discussion to a possible AUP violation in order to silence 

I invite all who are committed to Policy Development Process to get to 
know well about this subject, form their own opinions and support 
whoever they think is committed to a stable Internet ecosystem and fair 
IP resources distribution.


On 29/08/2021 16:12, John Curran wrote:
> On 28 Aug 2021, at 2:53 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote:
>> Although I have, at present, a number of outstanding disagreements with
>> Owen DeLong on a range of issues, I would just like to echo what seems
>> to be his sentiment, i.e. that it would be helpful if there existed something
>> like an arin-discuss@ or arin-talk@ mailing list where topics of relevance
>> to ARIN but not clearly associated with any specific pending policy proposal
>> could be more freely discussed without violating the list charter.
>> It is my hope that any already planned technical work in this direction may
>> be completed expeditiously.
> Understood.    I note that the prior arin-discuss list was only open to ARIN members - do you have a particularly viewpoint on its replacement?
>> As Owen noted, other regions do operate exactly such generalized discussion
>> lists.
> Acknowledged - ARIN has such a generalized discussion list as well until very recently, but many years of autosubscribed people in its earliest days resulted in a less-than-usable forum for conducting actual discussion.  We only recently eliminated it, but apparently the arin-discuss list – a list that had almost no traffic in recent years – is missed already - that’s almost touching.
> Thanks,
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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