[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

Robert Clarke robert at rjfc.net
Thu Oct 22 13:37:04 EDT 2020


https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_2/ <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_2/> "While attending ARIN 44 and discussing this with other community members the vast majority indicated that they agreed that some organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a remedy."

It seems this policy was spawned from vague data on "attendees of ARIN 44." It's concerning that ARIN does not acknowledge the long term harm on the broader community and chooses to focus on the short term remedy for legacy ISPs.

@Alyssa Moore + @Anita Nikolich Will the fate of this policy reside in the hands of ISPs who stand to gain from it as you've indicated previously? https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2020-August/068029.html <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2020-August/068029.html> "There are 18 comments in favour of the spirit of this policy, and 5 against." If these ISPs continue to lobby their "customers" to reply on this thread in favor of the policy, will that hold any weight? 

Regards,

Robert

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought this was a PUBLIC policy list? 
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:55 PM Robert Clarke <robert at rjfc.net <mailto:robert at rjfc.net>> wrote:
> +1 on this.
> 
> Where is the data from ARIN on where the support for this policy is coming from?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robert
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com <mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I oppose any special treatment being given to organizations that encourage their customers to spam the policy list with messages in support of such special treatment.
>> 
>> -Scott
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>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Chad Geiser via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:
>> To Whom it May Concern,
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>>  
>> 
>> We do business with Stratus as a Fiber provider for our operation as well as many of our clients. They are a legitimate internet service provider. We support the Stratus stance on this policy. Thank you for the consideration.
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>>  
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>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Chad Geiser
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