[arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

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Thu Oct 22 11:35:28 EDT 2020

I am opposed to this proposal.

There is no more IPv4 available, and I think that it is wrong to allow 
these resources to be assigned to these people, simply because they 
happened to be on the list at the time the waitlist was struck with fraud.

I personally think that all returned space should instead be placed into 
the 4.10 pool.  It is wrong to give this space to those who are making no 
effort to move to IPv6, which is the clear future of the Internet.  The 
4.10 pool has a built in IPv6 requirement, and those that think they will 
be rescued from adopting IPv6 by some future protocol are not acting 
rational. IPv6 has taken many years to reach its current level, and it 
will be hightly unlikely EZ-IP or any other means will displace it.

I also do not like those that have sent their customers to this list to 
lobby for receiving this space instead of the "new entrants" to up the 
count of those that are in favor in an effort to promote adoption of this 

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Fernando Frediani wrote:

> What is this ?
> People coming to support this just because they see a opportunity to get a 
> few more space for their own organizations and not because this is a fair and 
> equitable to all existing and potential members of the Internet Community.?
> Everybody that operates in the Internet Business depends on IPv4 allocations 
> and they are not available anymore. This shortage is equal to anyone and some 
> still wishing to receive a little chunk of addresses despite the situation 
> that affects all ?
> What is the justification to give some organizations who already have some 
> reasonable space to work with, more space in current times ? I see this as 
> privileging few rather than been equalized to all others.
> So why I always opposed this proposal.
> Fernando
> On 22/10/2020 09:51, Jon Bachtold wrote:
>> I fully support this policy as written, I appreciate how the ARIN staff has 
>> determined this issue a definite oversight and has determined to quickly 
>> remedy.
>> As a Regional ISP, we live and breathe on IPV4 allocations and responsible 
>> allocations to our customers.   I am impressed by the tremendous response 
>> of colleagues, partners, employees, customers, and competitors of Stratus 
>> in reaction to this.  That tells me that they all had the same reaction 
>> when they were advised of the situation, disappointment, and dare I say 
>> some outrage.
>> Equally, I am impressed that ARIN staff responded so quickly, and they look 
>> to remedy the situation quickly,  preventing any tarnish to the reputation 
>> that it has achieved as a fair and equitable manager of such a constrained 
>> resource.
>> Kudos to ARIN Staff, and Encore!
>> Jon Bachtold
>> Chief Technology Office
>> Central IL Regional Broadband Network
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