[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN 2020-3

scott at solarnetone.org scott at solarnetone.org
Mon Oct 12 14:06:57 EDT 2020


Hi Chris,

Indeed.  To be fair, I think the price is fair for value received, 
speaking as a 2x-small ISP with a /36.  I was able to lower my recurring 
costs and increase my available address pool by bringing up an AS at the 
2x-small rate.  Allowing the smallest ISPs to implement IPv6 without 
additional financial cost seems a prudent way to overcome barriers to 
adoption.

Scott

On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, Chris Woodfield wrote:

> Thanks Andrew, and good catch - both Scott and I missed that clause, 
> obviously. It appears that this is in place in order to meet the stated 
> goal of this proposal being revenue-neutral for ARIN? If so, it would be 
> great to clarify so that community members can make a more informed 
> evaluation as to whether or not to support the clause. If there are 
> other justifications for the clause’s presence, I’d be interested to 
> hear them.
2~>
> Thanks,
>
> -C
>
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>
>> The current draft policy text disallows returns to lower than a /36, so
>> I would say that organization which took a /36 would not be permitted to
>> go down to a /40.
>>
>> "Partial returns of any IPv6 allocation that results in less than a /36
>> of holding are not permitted regardless of the ISP’s current or former
>> IPv4 number resource holdings."
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 10/9/2020 2:04 PM, Chris Woodfield wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> Given that ARIN utilizes a sparse allocation strategy for IPv6 resources (in my organization’s case, we could go from a /32 to a /25 without renumbering), IMO it would not be unreasonable for the allocation to be adjusted down simply by changing the mask and keeping the /36 or /32 unallocated until the sparse allocations are exhausted. Any resources numbered outside the new /40 would need to be renumbered, to be sure, but that’s most likely less work than a complete renumbering.
>>>
>>> That said, I’ll leave it up to Registration Services to provide a definitive answer.
>>>
>>> -C
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020, scott at solarnetone.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in favor of this draft, and am curious as to how resource holders who were not dissuaded by the fee increase will be impacted by the policy change. While they indeed have more address space than /40, they may also not need the additional address space.  Some might prefer the nano-allocation given the lower cost.  Will they be required to change allocations, and renumber, in order to return to 3x-small status and associated rate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Johnson
>>>>> SolarNetOne, Inc.
>>>>> AS32639
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