[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Nov 16 19:48:30 EST 2020


Not quite… It works based on rough consensus, not relative weight of support or opposition.

So if there are substantial objections from the community, a mere majority may not be sufficient. OTOH, if all objections can be addressed (and substantial objections mitigated or accommodated), then a proposal should move forward. As to what is substantial, addressed, mitigated, or accommodated, those judgments are made first by the advisory council, with various checks and balances from the board and the petition process(es).

Owen

Full disclosure, while I am a member of the AC and will participate in that determination, there are also 14 other members and I do not speak for the body or anyone but myself in making the above comment.


> On Oct 22, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
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> I agree, this is Public.  I have an ASN, I was on the waitlist for 11 months to get my address block (with no expectation that I was going to receive a block).  I would not have felt it was fair if I was dropped and had to reapply again.  I will continue to come back to it's how the policy is being applied.  It doesn't matter who is supporting this policy or why, as Martin says this is a Public list.  We are entitled to our reasons and to be able to support or not support these initiatives.  If support outweighs opposition, then it should move forward.
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> I thought this was a PUBLIC policy list? 
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:55 PM Robert Clarke <robert at rjfc.net <mailto:robert at rjfc.net>> wrote:
> +1 on this. 
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> Where is the data from ARIN on where the support for this policy is coming from?
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> Regards,
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> Robert
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> On Oct 21, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com <mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I oppose any special treatment being given to organizations that encourage their customers to spam the policy list with messages in support of such special treatment.
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> -Scott
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> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Chad Geiser via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:
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> We do business with Stratus as a Fiber provider for our operation as well as many of our clients. They are a legitimate internet service provider. We support the Stratus stance on this policy. Thank you for the consideration.
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> Sincerely,
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