[arin-ppml] Oppose Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 21:56:55 EST 2020


Thank you, Jason. Well spoken.

I’ve spent many hours of my life in line at Fenway Park without a World
Series win and never got a refund.

YMMV,

-M<



On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 09:08 Brandt, Jason <jason.brandt at pearlcompanies.com>
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> It's the time spent on the list.  I waited 11 months on the list before
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> issue.  That was time wasted that could've been spent making other
> arrangements, hence they were penalized.
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> *To:* Brandt, Jason <jason.brandt at pearlcompanies.com>; arin-ppml at arin.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Oppose Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2
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> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 8:42 AM Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML <
> arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
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> I find it hard to understand how you can believe that this is "special
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> Grandfathering is a common technique that addresses inequities changes
> create. Governments do it and business does it. To some extent, the could
> be called "special benefits". However, the context of that is different,
> some feel the benefits
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> create an inequity rather than resolve one.
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> Organizations went through the approved process to get on the wait list to
> *possibly* be assigned an address block. The policy on allocations was
> changed, however the organizations did everything by the book
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> per previous policy. The organization is now told that they have to go
> through the process again and wait longer. This has nothing to do with
> potential space allocation. I am all for limiting the allocation amount in
> the future. However, to penalize an organization
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> that has followed the process to this point is unfair. This also is no
> guarantee that these organizations will receive an allocation. More likely,
> they'll continue to wait.
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> This draft policy is simply to not penalize organizations that went
> through the proper process of what was approved policy at the time. A
> similar scenario would be arresting someone who has broken a law, prior to
> the offense becoming law.
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> The question for me is what, clearly, is the inequity that grandfathering
> addresses? Going through the process? Waiting on the list and getting
> nothing? There were no guarantees made when a company got on the list as
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> The process was minimal and I don't think it in itself requires any
> special compensation. This policy, if I read the meeting minutes correctly
> and Owen's comments in them, doesn't really help with much at all.
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> I continue to support this policy, not because I agree that larger
> requests should be granted, but because the organizations had followed the
> approved process and policies.
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> I'm not entirely certain where I sit on this. So far I haven't seen strong
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> Fair enough. Thank you.
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> Warm regards,
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> -M<
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