[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

Michael B. Williams Michael.Williams at glexia.com
Wed Jul 15 16:52:41 EDT 2020


I personally am fine with a limit of /20 maximum for reintroduction.

Michael

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On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:40 PM Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:

> I do not support the reintroduction of organizations onto the wait-list
> who were removed due to having existing address holdings larger than a
> /20.  Being on the wait-list was never a guarantee that you would receive
> space.  The AC had to balance the various elements of block size and
> organizations who would be eligible to receive space under the updated
> policy and we were aware that the rules as implemented would prevent some
> organizations on the wait-list from receiving blocks going forward.
>
> Speaking only for myself, not the AC
>
> Andrew
> On 6/19/2020 11:25 AM, Alyssa Moore wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> There was some great discussion of this policy proposal at ARIN45. We hear
> a wide range of views including:
>
>    1. Don't grandfather organizations. The new waitlist policy is sound.
>    2. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
>    eligible for their original request size (even if it exceeds the new limit
>    of a /22).
>    3. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should
>    remain eligible if their holdings exceed a /20 OR a /18. The draft policy
>    under discussion specifies a /18 total holdings for grandfathered orgs,
>    while the current waitlist policy (2019-16) specifies a /20.
>    4. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
>    eligible regardless of their total holdings because that was not a
>    restriction of the policy under which they originally qualified for the
>    waitlist.
>
>  There was general support to continue finessing this draft. If you have
> views on the above noted parameters, please make them known here.
>
> For reference:
>
> *Old waitlist policy*
>
>    1. Requester specifies smallest block they'd be willing to accept,
>    equal to or larger than the applicable minimum size specified elsewhere in
>    ARIN policy.
>    2. Did not place a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of
>    a party eligible for the waitlist.
>    3. Made resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
>    until after a period of 12 months.
>
> *New Waitlist Policy*
>
>    1. Limits the size of block ARIN can issue on the waitlist to a /22.
>    2. Places a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of a party
>    eligible for the waitlist at a /20 or less.
>    3. Makes resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
>    until after a period of 60 months.
>
>
> Best,
> Alyssa
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:35 PM David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
>
>> I support this policy and believe the policy development process is the
>> proper place to handle this issue. However, this policy seems to be
>> implementable as a one-time policy directive to ARIN Staff. Once
>> implemented, by putting the effected organizations back on the waiting
>> list, it seems unnecessary to memorialized the text in the NRPM, it would
>> immediately become extraneous and potentially confusing to future readers
>> of the NRPM.
>>
>> Therefore, I would like to recommend the Policy Statement not be added to
>> the NRPM upon its implementation. I believe this to be consistent with the
>> intent of the policy.  Otherwise, does ARIN Staff have procedural advice on
>> how best to handle what seems like a one-time directive?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from
>>> Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> The implementation of the ARIN-2019-16 Advisory Council Recommendation
>>> Regarding NRPM 4.1.8: Unmet Requests caused some organizations to be
>>> removed from the waiting list that were approved under the old policy’s
>>> eligibility criteria. These organizations should have been grandfathered
>>> when the waitlist was reopened to allow them to receive an allocation of
>>> IPv4 up to the new policy’s maximum size constraint of a /22.
>>>
>>> Policy Statement: Update NRPM Section 4.1.8 as follows:
>>>
>>> Add section 4.1.8.3 (temporary language in the NRPM to remain until the
>>> policy objective is achieved)
>>>
>>> Restoring organizations to the waitlist
>>>
>>> ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the waitlist at
>>> the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position if their total
>>> holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less. The maximum
>>> size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for is a /22.
>>>
>>> All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by [number of
>>> months between July 2019 and implementation of new policy]. Any requests
>>> met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the
>>> waiting list.
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>>>
>>> Anything Else: While attending ARIN 44 and discussing this with other
>>> community members the vast majority indicated that they agreed that some
>>> organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a remedy.
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