[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 15:50:53 EDT 2020


I agree fees are more a RSA and member related thing than policy 
related, however for most it may be mentioned in either RSA, web 
documentation, etc, it must still be said be *well clear in the 
policies* that lack of payment is a potential reason for space 
revocation, which is what is been suggested to be removed from the 
current text.

I don't see a potential problem in keeping that part of the text where 
it is. What problem is this causing or may cause in the future ?

Unless this text removal can be better justified I can not still support 
this proposal.

Fernando

On 25/08/2020 15:41, ARIN wrote:
> On 20 August 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted 
> "ARIN-prop-291: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee" as a 
> Draft Policy.
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8 is below and can be found at:
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this 
> draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy 
> as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
> principles are:
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
>
> Problem Statement:
>
> The January 2020 Policy Experience Report highlighted that the 
> existing language in Section 4.2.1.2 “Annual Renewal” references fees. 
> Fees are not considered a member qualification criteria. Since fees 
> aren’t referenced elsewhere in community policy, the wording was 
> reviewed by the PEG.
>
> Policy Statement:
>
> Given that the Registration Services Agreement (RSA) already contains 
> language regarding fees, the PEG recommends removing the last two 
> sentences referencing from Section 4.2.1.2. The intent of the current 
> wording is accomplished by the existing RSA.
>
> Current Policy (12 Aug 2020)
>
> 4.2.1.2. Annual Renewal
>
> An annual fee for registered space is due by the anniversary date of 
> the ISP’s first allocation from ARIN. ISPs should take care to ensure 
> that their annual renewal payment is made by their anniversary due 
> date in accordance with the Registration Services Agreement. If not 
> paid by the anniversary date, the address space may be revoked. Please 
> review the Annual Renewal/Maintenance Fees Page for more details.
>
> Proposed Policy
>
> 4.2.1.2. Annual Renewal
>
> An annual fee for registered space is due by the anniversary date of 
> the ISP’s first allocation from ARIN. ISPs should take care to ensure 
> that their annual renewal payment is made by their anniversary due 
> date in accordance with the Registration Services Agreement.
>
> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>
> Comments:
>
> The AC’s understanding is that community policy should not include 
> language referring to fees, as such language is already present in the 
> Registration Services Agreement (RSA). Registration Services has 
> informed us that “Section 4.2.1.2. contains language detailing fee due 
> dates, encouraging on-time payments, and mentions potential 
> revocations. It also contains a reference to web documentation that 
> has evolved significantly since this policy was implemented, and may 
> continue to do so. Essentially the entire section is made of language 
> that is already in the Registration Services Agreement, and is 
> generally fee-focused, making it outside normal scope for Internet 
> number resource policy.”
>
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