[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-3: IPv6 Nano-allocations
John Santos
john at egh.com
Thu Apr 16 10:36:25 EDT 2020
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On 4/16/2020 10:32 AM, Brian Jones wrote:
> Looking at the numbers John posted concerning this issue, it tends to /look
> like/ some of these 3x small folks decided to drop their request once they
> encountered the price increase. If this is the case then we should move
> forward with this proposal. We do not want to create a situation where folks
> are continuing to use only IPv4 because of costs.
>
> I support this proposal.
>
> —
> Brian
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:19 AM <hostmaster at uneedus.com
> <mailto:hostmaster at uneedus.com>> wrote:
>
> Is that very much because they found out if they accepted the IPv6 space,
> their fees would double???
>
> If so, this PROVES the need to adopt this plan. We should not have things
> in place that prevent IPv6 adoption. We have already decided that IPv6
> should be cost neutral. Lets fix this glitch and let these 3x small
> people have IPv6 without doubling their cost.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, John Sweeting wrote:
>
> > Yes that is exactly what it means. After approval they decided for
> whatever reason they no longer wanted the resource.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:56 AM, John Santos <john at egh.com
> <mailto:john at egh.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> What does "closed with no action" mean? Does it mean the RSP
> abandoned the request?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 4/15/2020 7:18 PM, John Sweeting wrote:
> >>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>
> >>> The numbers around this are:
> >>>
> >>> 320 3x small RSPs
> >>> 30 have applied and been approved for IPv6 of which 26 closed with no
> action to complete by the requester. The other 4 are currently still open
> and pending action.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> John S.
> >>>
> >>> On 4/15/20, 11:30 AM, "Andrew Dul" <andrew.dul at quark.net
> <mailto:andrew.dul at quark.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> John,
> >>> Could you provide the community with a rough magnitude of
> this issue?
> >>> Approximately how many of these 3x-small ISP organizations
> have come to
> >>> ARIN and requested IPv6? How many accepted the block and how many
> >>> refused because of the fee issue? How many 3x-small ISP organizations
> >>> does ARIN currently serve.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Andrew
> >>> On 4/14/2020 2:29 PM, John Sweeting wrote:
> >>> > All,
> >>> >
> >>> > For anyone interested in the content of the "Policy Experience
> Report presented by Registration
> >>> > Services to the AC at its annual workshop in January 2020"
> referenced in the problem statement you can see that report here:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/ac/meetings/2020_0124/policy_experience_report.pdf
> >>> >
> >>> > Thank you.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 3/24/20, 1:22 PM, "ARIN-PPML on behalf of ARIN"
> <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on behalf
> of info at arin.net <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On 19 March 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
> >>> > "ARIN-prop-285: IPv6 Nano-allocations" as a Draft Policy.
> >>> >
> >>> > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-3 is below and can be found at:
> >>> >
> >>> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_3/
> >>> >
> >>> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The
> AC will
> >>> > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of
> this draft
> >>> > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource
> policy as
> >>> > stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically,
> these
> >>> > principles are:
> >>> >
> >>> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> >>> > * Technically Sound
> >>> > * Supported by the Community
> >>> >
> >>> > The PDP can be found at:
> >>> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> >>> >
> >>> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> >>> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sean Hopkins
> >>> > Policy Analyst
> >>> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-3: IPv6 Nano-allocations
> >>> >
> >>> > Problem Statement:
> >>> >
> >>> > ARIN's fee structure provides a graduated system wherein
> organizations
> >>> > pay based on the amount of number resources they consume.
> >>> >
> >>> > In the case of the very smallest ISPs, if a 3X-Small ISP
> (with a /24 or
> >>> > smaller of IPv4) gets the present minimal-sized IPv6
> allocation (a /36),
> >>> > its annual fees will double from $250 to $500/year.
> >>> >
> >>> > According to a Policy Experience Report presented by Registration
> >>> > Services to the AC at its annual workshop in January 2020, this
> >>> > represents a disincentive to IPv6 adoption with a substantial
> fraction
> >>> > of so-situated ISPs saying "no thanks" and abandoning their
> request for
> >>> > IPv6 number resources when informed of the impact on their
> annual fees.
> >>> >
> >>> > This can be addressed by rewriting subsection 6.5.2(b). Initial
> >>> > Allocation Size to allow allocation of a /40 to only the
> smallest ISPs
> >>> > upon request, and adding a new clause 6.5.2(g) to cause an
> automatic
> >>> > upgrade to at least a /36 in the case where the ISP is no
> longer 3X-Small.
> >>> >
> >>> > Reserving /40s only for organizations initially expanding
> into IPv6 from
> >>> > an initial sliver of IPv4 space will help to narrowly address the
> >>> > problem observed by Registration Services while avoiding
> unintended
> >>> > consequences by accidentally giving a discount for undersized
> allocations.
> >>> >
> >>> > Policy Statement:
> >>> >
> >>> > Replace the current 6.5.2(b) with the following:
> >>> >
> >>> > b. In no case shall an LIR receive smaller than a /32 unless they
> >>> > specifically request a /36 or /40.
> >>> >
> >>> > In order to be eligible for a /40, an ISP must meet the following
> >>> > requirements:
> >>> > * Hold IPv4 direct allocations totaling a /24 or less (to
> include zero)
> >>> > * Hold IPv4 reassignments/reallocations totaling a /22 or
> less (to
> >>> > include zero)
> >>> >
> >>> > In no case shall an ISP receive more than a /16 initial
> allocation.
> >>> >
> >>> > Add 6.5.2(g) as follows:
> >>> >
> >>> > g. An LIR that requests a smaller /36 or /40 allocation is
> entitled to
> >>> > expand the allocation to any nibble aligned size up to /32 at
> any time
> >>> > without renumbering or additional justification. /40
> allocations shall
> >>> > be automatically upgraded to /36 if at any time said LIR's
> IPv4 direct
> >>> > allocations exceed a /24. Expansions up to and including a
> /32 are not
> >>> > considered subsequent allocations, however any expansions
> beyond /32 are
> >>> > considered subsequent allocations and must conform to section
> 6.5.3.
> >>> > Downgrades of any IPv6 allocation to less than a /36 are not
> permitted
> >>> > regardless of the ISP's current or former IPv4 number
> resource holdings.
> >>> >
> >>> > Comments:
> >>> >
> >>> > The intent of this policy proposal is to make IPv6 adoption
> at the very
> >>> > bottom end expense-neutral for the ISP and revenue-neutral
> for ARIN. The
> >>> > author looks forward to a future era wherein IPv6 is the dominant
> >>> > technology and IPv4 is well in decline and considered
> optional leading
> >>> > the Community to conclude that sunsetting this policy is
> prudent in the
> >>> > interests of avoiding an incentive to request undersized IPv6
> allocations.
> >>> >
> >>> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
> >>> >
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> >> John Santos
> >> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
> >> 781-861-0670 ext 539
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