[arin-ppml] [Ext] [FEEDBACK] Anyone else notice that the base whois are not getting maintained well lately?

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Tue Oct 22 20:56:02 EDT 2019

On 2019-10-22 5:49 p.m., Michael Peddemors wrote:
> Okay, another case of me rushing emails, and not being clear enough.
> First of all, the 'whois' protocol, in spite of all the talk of RDAP, is 
> still a highly used protocol worldwide.  But for the most part, this was 
> designed before IP run out and the creation of so many cases of 
> inter-RIR transfers.
> Traditionally, whois clients used static lists of 'guesses' for which 
> ranges should be looked up via which RIR, so people didn't have to try 
> all of them via the -h option.
> Eg... https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/blob/next/ip_del_list
> There should be some common and easy way that 'whois' clients can access 
> an up to date listing of what ranges are controlled by which RIR's.
> Eg the previously mentioned 'whois' defaults to assuming 
> it is still controlled by APNIC, when in reality this was transferred to 
> ARIN.  Or some of the /16's that haved been moved inter RIR.
> Just a suggestion, a central place where RIR's can register inter RIR 
> transfers, so that 'whois' clients 'hints' files can easily be updated.
>      -- Michael --

Oh, and this range is another example..

'whois' (reports that it is not operated by RIPE), but 
doesn't tell you where to go.. other than the IANA site.

inetnum: -
descr:          IPv4 address block not managed by the RIPE NCC
remarks:        ------------------------------------------------------

(Actually, it is at `whois -h whois.arin.net`)

Is it IANA that should maintain the 'hints' file?

> On 2019-10-22 7:08 a.m., Leo Vegoda wrote:
>> On 10/21/19, 4:35 PM, "ARIN-PPML on behalf of Michael Peddemors" wrote:
>> [...]
>>> You would think that if this has been transferred to ARIN back in 2017,
>>> that the standard 'whois' commands would by now return more recent
>>> information.
>> I suggest using RDAP as the least hassle way of having a client follow 
>> a chain and get you the result you want.
>> Kind regards,
>> Leo Vegoda

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