[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Mon Oct 14 11:22:43 EDT 2019

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> On 12/10/2019 13:58, William Herrin wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 6:29 AM <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree.  The only reason for this transfer thing was the shortage of
>>>> addresses and 16 bit ASN numbers.  There is no shortage of IPv6
>>>> or 32 bit ASN.
>>> Therefore, I agree that IPv6 transfers and 32 bit ASN transfers should
>>> be permitted, even for M&A.
>> I have almost exactly the opposite opinion. No shortage means no cause
to game the system. No gaming of the system means the transfer is requested
for reasonable, pragmatic causes. Like avoiding renumbering pain. Why
should this be prevented?
> Because this is not a strong enough reason to allow IPV6 and 32-bit ASN
be moved from one region to another. Although there are costs to do
renumbering this is part of the business and anyone in such situation must
be prepared to do so.

Respectfully, I think you have it backwards. We shouldn't need a reason to
allow something, we should need a reason to prevent it. Maybe not a great
reason (that probably sets the bar too high) but at least a plausible

> The type of scenario that is being proposed here is not something that
happens so frequently, in some cases may be very specific and is not very
productive to change such an important thing like allowing IPv6 and 32-bits
ASN to be moved between regions with the impacts it causes in the whole
global registering system just to accomplish the need of a few which have
workable plausible option available. Therefore the need of a few cannot
overcome the interest of the whole system.

Like what? What malfunctions or functions inefficiently if with the
receiving registry's consent we allow a registrant to move their IPv6
addresses and AS numbers from ARIN to a different registry?

Bill Herrin

William Herrin
bill at herrin.us
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