[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 10:50:35 EDT 2019

On 12/10/2019 13:58, William Herrin wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 6:29 AM <hostmaster at uneedus.com 
> <mailto:hostmaster at uneedus.com>> wrote:
>     I agree.  The only reason for this transfer thing was the shortage
>     of IPv4
>     addresses and 16 bit ASN numbers.  There is no shortage of IPv6
>     addresses
>     or 32 bit ASN.
>     Therefore, I agree that IPv6 transfers and 32 bit ASN transfers
>     should not
>     be permitted, even for M&A.
> I have almost exactly the opposite opinion. No shortage means no cause 
> to game the system. No gaming of the system means the transfer is 
> requested for reasonable, pragmatic causes. Like avoiding renumbering 
> pain. Why should this be prevented?

Because this is not a strong enough reason to allow IPV6 and 32-bit ASN 
be moved from one region to another. Although there are costs to do 
renumbering this is part of the business and anyone in such situation 
must be prepared to do so.

The type of scenario that is being proposed here is not something that 
happens so frequently, in some cases may be very specific and is not 
very productive to change such an important thing like allowing IPv6 and 
32-bits ASN to be moved between regions with the impacts it causes in 
the whole global registering system just to accomplish the need of a few 
which have workable plausible option available. Therefore the need of a 
few cannot overcome the interest of the whole system.
If there was a shortage of a IPv6 or 32-bit ASN that would be a more 
strong reason, but the reality is there isn't. The option available is 

> -- 
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us <mailto:bill at herrin.us>
> https://bill.herrin.us/
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