[arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

Michael Williams michael.williams at glexia.com
Fri May 24 18:17:44 EDT 2019


Why not send the IPs back to ARIN and let them transfer them to the next
organisation? Why let orgs transfer them directly this incentives fraud or
misuse. Any IP obtained from waiting list should go back to ARIN if no
longer in use not sold or transferred on a secondary market.

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On 25 May 2019, at 05:59, Tom Pruitt <tpruitt at stratusnet.com> wrote:

Well said,  this is pretty much exactly how I feel.



Thanks,

Tom Pruitt



*From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Tom Fantacone
*Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2019 2:38 PM
*To:* ARIN <info at arin.net>
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*Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation
Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests



Keeping in mind that the original suspension of the waiting list and calls
for restrictions was based upon statistical evidence that multiple actors
were committing waiting list fraud, and that we've subsequently learned it
was really one bad actor with multiple Orgs/identities, who has been
caught, stopped and punished, I'm reluctant to go overboard on restrictions
that harm the vast majority of fair players.  Still, we do want to change
incentives to prevent this from happening again.

1. I support the /22 limit.
I think the size limit for those on the current waiting list should be
significantly larger, however.  I suggest an /18 or at least a /19.  These
Orgs joined the waiting list with the expectation that they would receive
at least the minimum size they requested in perhaps a year or so, made
their business plans accordingly, and opted not to use the transfer market
when they were approved.  Since then prices for IPv4 have risen
significantly.  I believe it unfair to change the rules on them so
drastically.  There is no evidence that there are a significant number of
fraudsters still on the list.

2. I support that only Orgs holding a /20 or less can get on the waiting
list.
I don't want it applied to existing Orgs on the list for the same reasons
as in 1.

3. I oppose the 60 month waiting period before an 8.3 transfer.
It's too long.  Plenty of legitimate Orgs need the IPs, will use them for
2-3 years, but may not need them after that.  And this policy would
incentivize them to sit on the addresses till the 60 months runs out,
wasting valuable resources others could use, as others have pointed out.  I
suggest a 24 month waiting period.



Regards,



Tom



---- On Fri, 24 May 2019 13:04:58 -0400 *ARIN <info at arin.net
<info at arin.net>>* wrote ----



At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their
recommendation regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.

The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy
Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to
conclude on 7 June.

Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC’s
recommendation and the PPML discussion.

The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.

Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Advisory Council recommendation:

This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN
staff and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC
meeting on May 16, 2019.

In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process,
the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board
of Trustees in response to the Board’s suspension of part of the
operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 of the Numbering
Resource Policy Manual:

Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full
operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.

4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist

ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4
and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that
an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations
will be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to
a /24. Only organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space
may apply and be approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist
will not be eligible for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy
will be applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include
those currently listed.

Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not
allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days
after receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for
additional space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this
requirement if the requester can document a change in circumstances
since their last request that could not have been reasonably foreseen at
the time of the original request, and which now justifies additional
space. Qualified requesters whose request will also be advised of the
availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative
mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.

4.1.8.1 Sequencing

The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be
determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one
approved request on the waiting list at a time.

4.1.8.2 Fulfillment

ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the
size of each available address block as address blocks become available
for distribution. A timely review of the original request may be
conducted by ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any
requests met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed
from the waiting list.
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