[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks

Kevin Blumberg kevinb at thewire.ca
Thu May 23 11:14:58 EDT 2019


Andrew,

My view is slightly more nuanced than yes/no. It depends on the impact of changing the goal posts on space that has already been allocated/assigned.

I support the policy as discussed but I have concern that it will get wrapped up over this issue.

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg

From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:44 AM
To: Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net>
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks

I prefer that it apply to all blocks, not just going forward.

Owen



On May 21, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net<mailto:andrew.dul at quark.net>> wrote:

As the draft is written, I would assume it applies to all blocks issued under 4.1.8.2 because the draft policy doesn't state otherwise.  We certainly could craft the policy to only apply going forward or it could also be applicable to all wait-list blocks.

If members of the community have a preference for how this aspect should be handled that would be a good thing to comment on for this draft.

Thanks,
Andrew

On 5/21/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:
A suggestion would be to put this in its own subsection and reuse the text in 4.2.3.8, removing the 36 months and adding allocation/assignment. Reuse of language is helpful as the language has already been vetted.

4.1.8.3 IP allocations or assignments issued through 4.1.8 are non-transferable via section 8.3<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-3-transfers-between-specified-recipients-within-the-arin-region> and section 8.4<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-4-inter-rir-transfers-to-specified-recipients>. In the case of a section 8.2<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-2-mergers-acquisitions-and-reorganizations> transfer the IP allocation or assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs based justification at a rate consistent with intended use.

I assume this is moving forward and doesn’t affect blocks previously provided.

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg


From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net><mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:08 PM
To: ARIN <info at arin.net><mailto:info at arin.net>
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:06 AM ARIN <info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks

Policy Statement:

Add a second paragraph to 4.1.8.2<http://4.1.8.2/>:

IP allocations issued through 4.1.8.2 are non-transferable via section
8.3 and section 8.4. In the case of a section 8.2, transfer of the IP
assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs justified used
for the original 4.1.8 application.

Too weak.

"Organizations holding number resources issued through 4.1.8.2 shall be eligible to transfer IPv4 addresses to another organization only as allowed by section 8.2."
Regards,
Bill Herrin


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