[arin-ppml] A Brief History Lesson

Michael Williams michael.williams at glexia.com
Fri May 17 10:37:27 EDT 2019


John-

Do you mean predecessors instead of successors? I’ve added emphasis below.

[snip]

Legacy resource holders are parties (or their legal successors) who hold
number resources issued to them by ARIN’s *successors* prior to ARIN’s
inception in December 1997.

[/snip]

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On 17 May 2019, at 10:27, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

On 16 May 2019, at 10:20 PM, william manning <chinese.apricot at gmail.com>
wrote:


regarding legacy resources.  it is true that historically numbering
resources have been allocated/assigned to natural persons, which has always
been a problem for ARIN.  this fact is why, in part, there are two standard
versions of the registration agreement and there are three "classes" of
users, those under the registration agreement, those under the legacy
registration agreement, and those not covered by any agreement.  those not
covered are legacy assignments/allocations that predate ARIN.  As part of
ARINs charter is an agreement with the USG to honour/serve legacy holders.
Which ARIN does.  That said, ARIN goes out of its way to encourage these
folks to "onboard" with a legacy registration agreement. But there is no
overt stick to force the change w/o violating ARINs agreement with the USG.


I'm sure John will clarify, maybe even Scott might chime in.


Bill -

Good high-level introduction - let me fill in some details –

There’s actually one registration services agreement (RSA) at this point,
and it provides the same services to all parties and nearly the same
terms.  There are two notable differences that apply to a legacy resource
holder entering the agreement: 1) There is a total cap (currently
y$125/year) on your annual maintenance fees for your organization); 2) If
ARIN should be found to have violated the agreement and that leads to
termination, then at termination, you retain the rights to your number
resources that you had prior to entry.

Legacy resource holders are parties (or their legal successors) who hold
number resources issued to them by ARIN’s successors prior to ARIN’s
inception in December 1997.  If you obtain an address block from a legacy
resource holder, you are not a legacy resource holder unless you purchased
the entire company (i.e. merger/acquisition) and thus are the legal
successor.  The reason that ARIN provides special pricing and terms for
legacy resource holders is because we respect those organizations
contributions to the earliest days of the Internet, and provide a voluntary
path for them to formalize their rights via the RSA agreement with
favorable terms, if they so choose.

Note that none of the above speaks to policy – ARIN’s policies apply to all
resources in its registry, and all parties are welcome to participate,
including legacy resource holders who haven’t entered any formal agreement
for services with ARIN.   The NSF press release issued at the time of
ARIN’s formation <https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=102819>
shows NSF’s approval of the transition and notes that  "Creation of ARIN
will give the users of IP numbers (mostly Internet service providers,
corporations and other large institutions) a voice in the policies by which
they are managed and allocated within the North American region.”  As such,
legacy resource holders are encouraged to participate in the policy
development process that sets the policy used for management of the ARIN
registry. Legacy resource holders receive the same services that they
always have - i.e. those that they were in place at ARIN’s inception,
without any need for an agreement or payment of any fees.  Legacy holders
that want the all ARIN services available today must enter into a RSA and
pay the modest capped maintenance fees which help support development of
same.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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