[arin-ppml] Solving the squatting problem

Cj Aronson cja at daydream.com
Thu May 16 23:23:07 EDT 2019


Michel,

If you check out the last draft that expired in 2008 you'll see it was
written by Geoff, George, and Paul at APNIC
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wilson-class-e-00

-----Cathy




On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 7:48 PM Michel Py <
michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:

> > Joe Provo wrote :
> > By all means, go tilt at the class e windmill if you like;
> > it will only be the fourth time or so, I can't recall.
>
> I was trying to convince Owen to co-author with me ;-)
>
> > But it isn't anything for ARIN policy, so feel free to take it up at the
> IETF...
>
> I would not waste more time there.
> ARIN is the entity having the squatting problem : we have members who use
> the resources of another member and they should not.
>
> There is precedent, Owen will remember that I'm sure. During the early
> days, there was no IPv6 multi-homing solution. The RIRs, not the IETF,
> started to allocate IPv6 PI addresses to organizations who wanted to
> multi-home, while there was no such thing as IPv6 PI. I remember that the
> IETF was not happy with that, but it worked : since then, we have IPv6
> multi-homing, the good old way that works, not any of the dirty hacks that
> were on the table at the time.
>
> ARIN allocates 240/4 for private unicast to ARIN members.
> Maybe we could convince Geoff and APNIC to try the alternative way.
> Long shot, I know.
>
> Owen, you allow your vision of "all IPv6" to cloud your judgment. Turning
> IPv4 off is not going to happen for decades.
>
> Michel.
>
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