[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu May 16 14:39:40 EDT 2019



> On May 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> 
> Serving existing allocations is one thing.
> 
> However, if someone wants ARIN to provide them NEW IPv4 space by the waitlist or transfer, I have no issue in tying that to at least having an IPv6 allocation to go with the requested IPv4 space, along with at least some effort to use that IPv6 space.
> 
> Instead of dual stack, make Arin Online IPv6 only :).  Maybe that will give some people a hint……

Great idea… I hope you don’t mind that I coopted it and submitted this:

ACSP ARIN-20190516-S13

Suggestion Details:

Description: Encourage IPv6 Adoption by making ARIN on-line services increasingly IPv6 only. (Start with, say, the 6th of each month being IPv6-only day where ARIN on-line turns off it's A records and it's IPv4 address(es)). Beginning in 2020, additionally turn IPv4 off for the entire month of June. Beginning in 2021, add the month of December. In 2022, make it the last month of each quarter (March, June, September, December). Beginning in 2023, just turn off IPv4 for all of ARIN on-line.

Value to Community: This can send a clear message to ARIN customers that IPv6 is the future of the internet and help them understand the need to deploy IPv6 within their network. By ramping up to ARIN on-line being an IPv6-only web site ver the course of a few years, people have time to deploy and test, but starting in 2023, even if you want to transfer in more IPv4, you should be able to get to ARIN via IPv6 to do so.

Owen


> 
> I do eat the IPv6 Dog Food.  Check the Headers, even this list is delivered both ways via IPv6 in my case.
> 
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 16 May 2019, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> 
>> On 2019-05-16 8:15 a.m., hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
>>> IPv6 is the Future.  We need our policies to help make it happen.
>>> Albert Erdmann
>>> Network Administrator
>>> Paradise On Line Inc.
>> 
>> Or we can just wait until IPv8 comes out, I hear it is twice as fast as IPv4 ;)
>> 
>> All kidding aside, I personally dont' think ARIN's role should involve anything that can be construed as 'forcing' IPv6 adoption.  While it might run counter to popular opinion, the idea of policies that encourage the 'killing' of IPv4 usage goes against the grain.
>> 
>> Policies can 'encourage' more people supporting IPv6, but making policies that make it mandatory have real world implications to holders of IPv4 space, that I think run contrary to ARIN's role to service those incumbants.
>> 
>> IMHO
>> 
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