[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Thu May 16 10:58:59 EDT 2019

100% IPv6 deployment is an utopia and will not happen not even in the 
next decade for various reasons, therefore IPv4 is still needed for for 
basic CGNAT, 464XLAT and other techniques that allows an ISPs or End 
Users to exist in the Internet, therefore it is always better for more 
people can receive the bare minimum IPv4 to operate during this long 

I like the idea of demonstrate IPv6 deployment in order to receive a new 
IPv4 allocation, but not sure what is the most appropriate way the RIR 
can do that. Perhaps having a way is something to be taken with high 


On 16/05/2019 11:48, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 9:27 AM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> Perhaps, one could say: that both the Marketplace and the Waitlist
> are harmful to exist, since they discourage using IPv6 instead
> by providing a "tempting solution" to the run-out situation that is not really a
> solution --- the registry operating in an abnormal way where a major
> set of number resources can only be transferred from existing holders...
> not "freshly allocated" likely encourages fraud.
> 100% IPv6 deployment should alleviate the v4 registry issues
> (by eliminating the utility for v4 space) and thus remove
> potential incentives for bad actors.
> Perhaps it would make sense to have a requirement such
> as "Demonstrate matching IPv6 deployment for all previous
> allocations,  and materialized plans for IPv6 deployment in
> all  future/applied for allocations"   as
> A required condition for receiving resources, whether by marketplace
> or by wait list.
> ...
>> Some have argued that no such policy is needed at all, and ARIN should simply monetize
>> the number resources and use the proceeds in a manner aligned with its mission and
>> productive to the community, whereas others have indicated that the policy provides an
>> important option for smaller ISPs and organizations who may not be aware of IPv4 runout
>> and are not readily positioned to go the marketplace.   (Neither of these views supports
>> the waiting list policy which was suspended, as it served far more than simply smaller entities.)
>> John Curran
> --
> -JH
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