[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests
tom at iptrading.com
Thu May 16 10:01:17 EDT 2019
At 06:18 PM 5/15/2019, John Curran wrote:
>On 15 May 2019, at 2:47 PM, Tom Fantacone <tom at iptrading.com> wrote:
> > If we remove the waiting list activity of this one fraudster, how much
> > "statistically likely" fraud is left?
> > Was this one bad actor so bad that he accounted for almost all the likely
> > fraud on the waiting list?
> > Do we still even have a waiting list problem?
>Approximately half of the address blocks that were received from the
>waiting list and subsequently transferreed are affiliated with MICFO entities.
That's a lot of addresses and a high percentage of all waiting list
allocations. The genesis of ARIN suspending the waiting list and
requesting/recommending changes to it to prevent fraud was the
appearance of "likely fraud" based on the behavior of a small
handful of bad actors robbing the waiting list of a large number of
addresses. Am I right to assume that there was really one bad actor
(with a handful of bad aliases)?
Obviously ARIN cannot state with certainty that there is no other
fraud on the list, but if Micfo and its entities had never done what
they did, would ARIN have even seen a problem with the waiting list?
John Sweeting's presentation of suspected waiting list abuse is here:
If virtually all this misbehavior was this one guy, and he's been
stopped, do we still want to change the waiting list system and hurt
the overwhelming majority of honest players?
> > Perhaps we still want to take strong measures to prevent this from
> > happening in the future, but before making that determination, I'd like
> > to know the answers to the above
> > And on a related note, can anyone at ARIN tell us the total aggregate
> > space that is currently being requested on the waiting list?
>The entire waiting list is available here -
Thanks, John. I was looking for totals but the list was easy enough
to import into a spreadsheet and tally up. By my count the space
being requested totals to roughly 825K addresses, and about 775K is
the "minimum acceptable size" total. The 500K addresses ARIN is
reclaiming will go a long way in satisfying that demand.
Are any of the existing waiting list requests from Micfo entities or
have those already been scrubbed?
>President and CEO
>American Registry for Internet Numbers
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