[arin-ppml] Of further interest...

Mike Burns mike at iptrading.com
Wed May 15 15:51:57 EDT 2019

There is provision for the forfeited assets to be substituted by other property of equal value if certain conditions are met.

One of these conditions is if the assets have been transferred to a third person.

I think the pound of flesh will be forthcoming even if the addresses themselves are not recovered.




From: Douglas Haber <dhaber at gardenstatecomputing.com> 
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Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...


I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United States. 


Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they are surrendered to the government? 


Douglas Haber

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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...


I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this mailing list. It is public information though.

I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.



---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400 Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com> > wrote ----



And PR









On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> > wrote:

Other shoe dropped yesterday.



20 counts of wire fraud.



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