[arin-ppml] Micfo

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Tue May 14 20:29:23 EDT 2019

On 14 May 2019, at 7:54 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com<mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>> wrote:

In message <3170429E-4ED6-44A4-9973-9CEE09CE4097 at arin.net<mailto:3170429E-4ED6-44A4-9973-9CEE09CE4097 at arin.net>>,
John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:

ARIN will take action to correct issuance of resources against requests det=
ermined to be fraudulent - but that does not preclude valid requests from t=
he same entities, with properly issued resources being used to serve custom=
ers (many of which are likely to have done nothing wrong.)

I would recommend careful consideration of any policy that starts assigning=
labels to entities and requires unilateral revocation based on those same =
labels =96 both because of the potential for harm to innocent parties, and =
the potential for abuse (ie speculative fraud reports against a competitors=
becomes a potential weapon.)


I can well and truly understand the reluctance of ARIN to specifically and/or
explicitly call a spade a spade, or a crook a crook.  That's OK.  You don't
have to.  I'lll say it for you.

From the official documents that I've already read so far in this case
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever.  This guy Golestan is
a crook.  That word fits absolutely and like a glove.  You know it.  I know
it.  Anybody who reads the court documents will know it too.

ARIN does "report unlawful activity to law enforcement whenever appropriate.”, but we are _not_ a law enforcement agency.

The very fact that this guy is otherwise still a member in good standing
of ARIN is somewhere beyond disgusting, and ought to be remedied, immediately
if not sooner.

In their participation in the ARIN registry, resource holders shall not violate applicable laws or statues.  A party found (by a competent judicial authority) during their ARIN interactions to have violated criminal statutes  may also be in breach of their RSA agreements, and subject to ARIN suspension/termination/revocation proceedings.

Are all ARIN member firms really so careless and cavalier about the reputation
of the Internet, and "Internet governance" as a whole that you are all
utterly and completely blind to the well known fact that, as it is said,
if you lie down with dogs  you get up with fleas?

The very fact of the continued membership of Mr. Golestan in this exclusive
club, even after all that has happened and even given all that is now a matter
of formal public record, is as damning as it is inexplicable.

You seek an express determination that inherently judicial in nature from ARIN; i.e. from a mere technical coordination body.

Consider how you would feel if ARIN were undertaken such criminal judgements, unfettered from significant due process safeguards that the US legal system has refined over the years, etc.

As wonderful as that may sound to you when applied to the “obvious crooks” that you pursue, you should consider if you’d feel the same if such a determination, absent any meaningful recourse, was errantly laid upon the properly-acting company of a good friend or family member.  In the US, we have a legal system with extensive due process protections not because lawyers like work, but because prior to legal judgement, all parties are presumed innocent.

People in the business wonder why ordinary end-lusers don't trust the Intenet.
This is why.  It's because, to a lot of you, this is still the same old boys club,
just like it was back in the 1990s, and nobody ever wants to ever hold anybody
accountable for -anything-, in any way shape or form, because you're all scared
to death that you yourselves may then be answerable for -something- at some
unforseeable point in the future.

This isn't the kind of courageous leadership toward a brighter future that we
revere our founding fathers... Washington, Adams, Jeffrson, Hamilton, Madison...
for having had the foresight to have.  Rather, this type of courage is more
often associated with Barney Fife.

<chuckle> Alas, I’ll have to manage with that which is simply available to me as John Curran…   It is likely insufficient for the job of “Internet Emperor” which you seem to be strongly advocating for, but should be enough to keep ARIN, a mere Regional Internet Registry, running in a fair and equitable manner.


John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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