[arin-ppml] Micfo

Michael B. Williams Michael.Williams at glexia.com
Tue May 14 17:56:21 EDT 2019


Rfg,

The IP space is forfeited according to press reports... I presume ARIN will
reclaim these addresses and redistribute?

See: https://teamarin.net/2019/05/13/taking-a-hard-line-on-fraud/
On May 1, 2019, ARIN obtained a final and very favorable arbitration award
<https://www.arin.net/vault/about_us/corp_docs/20190506_arbitration_award_and_order.pdf>,
which allows ARIN to revoke *all* of the resources held by the defrauding
entities, and it required the defrauding party to pay ARIN $350,000 for
ARIN’s legal fees and costs associated with the matter. This case sets an
important precedent to deter defrauding parties from similar schemes to
improperly obtain or transfer IP resources.

https://www.news-journal.com/ap/national/arin-wins-important-legal-case-and-precedent-against-fraud/article_ceb57140-e574-5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html
On May 1, 2019, ARIN obtained a final and very favorable arbitration award
<https://c212.net/c/link/?t=0&l=en&o=2465174-1&h=3030005727&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.arin.net%2Fvault%2Fabout%E2%80%94us%2Fcorp%E2%80%94docs%2F20190506%E2%80%94arbitration%E2%80%94award%E2%80%94and%E2%80%94order.pdf&a=arbitration+award>which
included revocation of all resources issued pursuant to fraud and $350,000
to ARIN for its legal fees.

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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 5:36 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
wrote:

>
> I now have a convenient excuse to quote a line from one of my favorite
> Cohen Brothers movies of all time, "A Serious Man"...
>
>     "When the truth is found, to be lies, and all the joy
>     within you dies... then what?"
>
> I am particularly interested to know what happens now to all of this nice
> juicy IPv4 address space that this specific crook is holding:
>
>     https://bgp.he.net/AS53889#_prefixes
>
> I guess that since there exists no community-approved rule that says that
> people and/or entities that have clearly attempted to defraud ARIN will
> be kicked to the curb and will have their number resources put back into
> the free pool (where legitimate entities can have a shot at using those
> blocks for legitimate purposes) that this schmuck and con man is going to
> be allowed to keep 100% of the this OTHER stuff he has amassed, yes?
>
> Don't get me wrong.  I am breaking out the champagne over ARIN's victory
> here, but it is somewhat of a pyrrhic one if this shchmuck is still going
> to be allowed to operate on the Internet, from ANRI-issued space, alongside
> respectable people and companies.
>
> I've already made plain that I am in support of the proposal from Carlos
> and Jordi to add a rule to allow for the explusion, from ARIN, of red-
> handed hijackers.
>
> I'd now like to propose that that proposal be amended and expanded to
> include a provision allowing ARIN to expel from the organization any
> member who, as in this case, is found at fault in either a court case
> or an abitration proceeding involving ARIN.
>
> It shouldn't require a bloody act of congress just to get rid of jerks
> like this.
>
>
> Regards,
> rfg
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