[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

Andrew Bagrin abagrin at omninet.io
Thu May 2 16:29:04 EDT 2019

If the hijacking entity is not and ARIN customer, ARIN likely has a
relationship with adjacent ASN's that propagate the hijacked BGP routes and
can at the very least notify them that they are propagating routes that
have been reported as being hijacked.
They can further repeat the statement with a firm voice, and add "or else"
at the end.

Add penalties and fines could be a way to reduce prolonged propagation of
hijacked routes.

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:18 AM Adam Thompson <athompson at merlin.mb.ca>

> Instead of focusing on whether the current proposal is or isn’t in scope,
> I suggest we re-cast the discussion as follows:
>    1. So far, we have unanimous community agreement that BGP hijacking is
>    bad.
>    2. So far, we have broad agreement that “something ought to be done”
>    about BGP hijacking, although detailed opinions vary significantly.
>    3. So what (else) *can* ARIN do about it?  (Caveat: the answer “
>    *nothing*” is unacceptable to a significant proportion of PPML
>    participants.)
> My suggested direction to the AC and/or the board would therefore be:
> *Find* something ARIN can do to help combat the problem (more
> effectively).  If this requires expanding the scope of ARIN’s operations or
> policies, bring that back to the membership (possibly via PPML?) with the
> accompanying financial & legal analysis, as usual.
> Now the question becomes: what is the most appropriate mechanism, within
> ARIN’s existing policies, to bring a request like that to the AC and/or
> Board?  It seems clear to me that the petition already underway here is not
> meeting, and will not meet, the needs of the community very well.
> -Adam
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