[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Thu May 2 16:01:59 EDT 2019
On Thu, 2 May 2019, Michel Py wrote:
> I think that some of the participants in this thread have little idea of what could happen if we open Pandora's box.
> Let's start with an easy one : what do we do with ARIN members who hijack DoD space ?
> It is no secret that 22.214.171.124/8 has become RFC1918 bis.
> They don't announce it, but they use it. I shows up in traceroutes.
That's really news to me.
As long as you don't announce it to other networks i don't see an issue.
As long as nobody complains, i don't see an issue.
> If we set-up ARIN to be the cop of the Internet, what happens if a
> general in the Pentagon decides that people should not be using address
> space that has been allocated do DoD at all, and decides that ARIN is
> responsible for fixing it ? Perfectly good military strategy, it's
> called a proxy war.
Or simply trying to defend the legitimate exclusive rights of usage?
> What if the DoD has that interpretation of what "hijacking" means ?
> Could be argued that these addresses are unique and should not be used
> at all.
OK, so it's OK that someone announces slices from 50/8, 60/8, 70/8 towards
> If we go down the road that some are suggesting, some people are going
> to feel that they have been selectively targeted, then other people are
> going to feel that ARIN has not taken action when needed, the list of
> potential grievances is endless.
I think what the proposal contains is the ability so anyone who feels a
victim from an hijacking event can file a report. The proposal also
proposes any finding come from the community, not from the RIR.
> My view is that ARIN is a registry, not a law enforcement agency and I
> think it should stay that way.
Nobody is trying to create that department :-)
ARIN is a registry with 1/5 of the global responsibility.
Which law enforcement agencies are able to act against hijacks/hijackers?
ARIN at least has the ability to do something, given proper independent,
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