[arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

Carlos Friaças cfriacas at fccn.pt
Thu May 2 15:48:36 EDT 2019


It's not really an issue about the "global routing system".

If an hijacker has a set of "target networks" and finds all of them in the 
same NAP/IXP, he just needs to join and inject the hijacks through the 
NAP/IXP, without any upstream involved.

The problem here is effective use of other people's resources without 
proper autorization from the owner. If someone (outside the routing plane) 
tries to sell/transfer a block it doesn't hold, that can also be 
considered as an hijack, right?


On Thu, 2 May 2019, John Curran wrote:

> On May 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>> I think this is part of the reason it has been declared out-of-scope. The misunderstanding about ?speaking of routing?. Is not the case, we are speaking about members should respect the exclusive right of use of other members. Hijacking with BGP is only the mean to break that right.
> Jordi -
> That ?right of use? you reference is a ?right of use within the registry?, at least with respect to ARIN.   We cannot provide a right to ?use within the global routing system? without our customers first agreeing to contractual responsibilities that do not presently exist (as ARIN has no control over the global routing system.)
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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