[arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation
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Thu May 2 09:11:43 EDT 2019
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:30:38PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> So, you???re saying that if an ARIN member is *acting* against
> the exclusive rights of use resources allocated to other members,
> not by accident, and repeatedly, is just *fine* and ARIN should not
> even remind the member that he is acting against the rules?
No one says that, and your assertion that people are "with us
on this specific formulation of this proposal or obviously support
all forms of abuse" is both offensively polarizing and wildly
incorrect. Existing process doesn't say that. Again, it is IMO
outside the scope of policy, and handling such is covered under
item 4 of the first paragraph of
"This reporting process is to be used to notify the American
Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd. (ARIN) of suspected Internet
number resource abuse [...] or (4) hijacking of number resources
in ARIN's database."
It seems that underlying the proposal is some form of unstated
dissatisfaction with that process, or the public reporting of
results available on
Perhaps there's something specific you can cite? Or that you'd
be wanting to see more detail for some of the issues? Or that
the actions don't go far enough?
> Our goal is to have this in the 5 RIRs. If some of the regions
> decide not to go for it, they will have less credibility than
> those that go for it.
Since you aren't taking this through the Global Policy process,
you have chosen to work within the vagaries of different regional
processes, which exist as a natural consequence of Global Policy
ICP-2. I know you're specifically frustrated with these regional
variances, but I'd caution you to reflect upon the the floor
discussion from APNIC47 and overall reception for APNIC-prop-126
before indicating that regions who operate differently are
somehow "less credible".
Flatly, I see this as an assertion that ICP-2 doesn't apply
in your situation because it happens to be inconvenient to
work through the bottom-up process appropriate for each region.
Again, the scope matter for this proposal is now with the board
but IMO *all* of this is outside the PDP as it is ARIN business
Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header.
Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling
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