[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

Thu May 2 11:48:36 EDT 2019

El 2/5/19 17:39, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Nicolas Antoniello" <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de nantoniello at gmail.com> escribió:

ARIN (and so the other RIRs like LACNIC) are doing things to combat the problem more effectively, like fostering RPKI deployment and so... but police stuff remains (and I think it must remain) out of the scope of RIRs.

As said before, I’m fine if the RIRs don’t want to take actions, but they must have clear rules (policy text) that allows the victims to claim by other means if they wish. This is a way for the RIR to not get involved, but still facilitate the protection of the member’s rights.

Regards,

Nicolas

El jue., 2 de may. de 2019 a la(s) 09:19, Adam Thompson (athompson at merlin.mb.ca) escribió:

Instead of focusing on whether the current proposal is or isn’t in scope, I suggest we re-cast the discussion as follows:

1.       So far, we have unanimous community agreement that BGP hijacking is bad.

2.       So far, we have broad agreement that “something ought to be done” about BGP hijacking, although detailed opinions vary significantly.

3.       So what (else) can ARIN do about it?  (Caveat: the answer “nothing” is unacceptable to a significant proportion of PPML participants.)

My suggested direction to the AC and/or the board would therefore be:  Find something ARIN can do to help combat the problem (more effectively).  If this requires expanding the scope of ARIN’s operations or policies, bring that back to the membership (possibly via PPML?) with the accompanying financial & legal analysis, as usual.

Now the question becomes: what is the most appropriate mechanism, within ARIN’s existing policies, to bring a request like that to the AC and/or Board?  It seems clear to me that the petition already underway here is not meeting, and will not meet, the needs of the community very well.

-Adam

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